What does it take to keep a conspiracy secret?
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For example, there are many conspiracy theories surrounding the death of Dag Hammarskjöld. Supposedly in later life Van Risseghem admitted that he shot down the plane. But this hasn't led to the case being resolved, because we don't know if it's true that he said that, and even if he did we don't know if he was telling the truth.
Similarly, as I understand it, conspiracy theorists around the Kennedy assassination aren't short of statements, or reports of statements, by people who claim to have been in the know (for a number of mutually inconsistent theories, of course).
I bet secrets are easier to keep when they don’t seem fun to brag about,
I suspect a fair number of war crimes and similarly un-fun secrets have been safely lost to history
I don't like how this post generalizes. 2531 regular americans is not the same as 2531 Nazi officers who will have their families turned into soap if they don't keep their mouth shut.
The whole "loose lips,sink ships" mentality of WW2 is a very interesting case study where entire towns were in on a secret. Lots of other shady things were conspired by governments and inteo agencies from the 50's through 80's and lots of people were in on it.
Merely establishing prolonged social contact with an ex-military person is all it takes in my experience for me to be told of some conspiracy they've seen that I wouldn't believe (I don't even care!!).
A lot of the famous conspiracy theories are false flags but they have some root in reality. If someone told you have the stuff snowden leaked without proof would you not shrug it off as baseless conspiracy theory? Exactly how many people were in on it? His leaks happened in 2013 but they were from 2008!
In short my opinin is that the number of people you can include in your conspiracy largely depends on their incentive and intent to keep their mouth shut as well as your ability to mount false-flag misinformation campaigns before and after the fact.
The things he told me were both fascinating and terrifying. It made me reassess how many US government conspiracies are crazy, and now I actually believe most of them are true.
Aliens crashed at Roswell
Secret society rules the world/USA
Moon landings were faked
9/11 was an inside job
Something nefarious is being added to the water supply
The government created HIV
2. Somewhat. The cabal is there, thankfully they dont control everything yet. See: Rothschild and sons; communism.
3. No. A technical miracle, but they happened for sure. With a very high power telescope you can see some tracks the rovers left.
4. Definetely. Theres enough circumstantial evidence to take to court and win. Biggest obvious one is Al Franken admitting on Congressional record that he got "the Jew call" (his own words) to not go to work in the towers on that day.
5. Only through negligence and bad science. Fluoride at the end tap cannot be measured en masse effectively, so it is often overused. It is a potent neurotoxin, even at low levels. There is a chicken-egg problem with measuring many contaminants present in recycled water.
6. Again, only through negligence. Insufficient standards in medical supply and waste disposal, needles being reused is how HIV got out.
Keep asking, I can do this all day. Ive been to the bottom of the rabbit hole and back. We have such sights to show you!
What I did find were quotes from his book and a lot of people saying that he was being sarcastic and if you read the next few sentences you can see that.
(I still think it was obviously an inside job though without even knowing about Al Franken.)
I've always been looking for sensible ways to talk about conspiracy theories. It's hard because as soon as you push back on them the immediate response is to accuse you of being part of it.