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Anecdotally, I started learning Emacs a few months ago and am very happy with my decision. I first considered trying roughly 10 years ago, but didn't see the thriving package ecosystem I see today, starting with projects like Spacemacs and Doom. After some time trialing my options, I stuck with Spacemacs, and that choice saved me time in reaching my goal of transitioning my knowledge and project management to org-mode.

Even with training wheels, though, getting started wasn't simple. It's had a very choose-your-own-adventure feel to it. After some early thrashing, I've now found my favorite resources, have a decent sense of what's out there, and am even using org-mode to track my overall learning progress. It's become self-reinforcing.

With more modern tools getting better and better, I find it no surprise that VS Code and others are gaining market share, and that the Emacs user profile is becoming less diverse. But I think there will always be a place for a tool(box) as powerful and configurable as Emacs.

I once opened a textbook of Chinese, read a few first pages and had to put the book away - the characters, while seeming difficult to remember at first, started infiltrating my brain with a frightening efficiency... Same with learning emacs. There is something about it that you mind-meld with it and using it becomes part of your nature.

I've started learning Emacs a few weeks ago, and have had a similar experience as you. One different is that I considered going with Spacemacs / Doom but decided to take the route of starting from an empty init file and slowly building up from there (at least for now). I identify strongly with the feeling of thrashing; the wealth of different information and flexibility of the program itself can be overwhelming. Would you be willing to share some of your favorite resources (and why you chose them)? That would be immensely helpful for a beginner like me.

I think there's a lot to learn from starting from scratch, and it's something I hope to do too.

Gladly! I'll keep the list to what I've studied so far. Here goes: - If you ever want to explore, say, Doom (Spacemacs is likely too bloated for someone who gravitates to a vanilla config), chemacs[1] is a nifty, simple profile switcher - I think there's a lot of value in studying what they've done with their mnemonic keybinding systems (I love being able to narrow to an org-mode subtree and widen again with =, n= and =, N=, respectively, as but one of many examples) - Sasha Chua is a good source, as she's very knowledgeable and put out a drawn 1-pager[2] on starting Emacs - it's geared towards standard Emacs keybindings - Personally, I'm a huge fan of Evil-mode for Vim keybindings, as they're powerful and portable and I had basic familiarity with Vim before picking up Emacs - I haven't found a rough edge in Evil-mode yet - it seems very refined - Dired is worth getting a handle on early since any improvement in how you can navigate Emacs translates - Magit is pure magic, and I now have my full ~/org under version control with what feels like near-0 overhead - Seorenn makes mostly Spacemacs videos[3] and Zaiste Programming makes Doom videos[4], but I find them useful regardless of my config - you may just want to skip to the videos on packages that interest you - If you haven't yet, choosing either Helm or Ivy is huge - Personally, I'm happy with helm in Spacemacs and I was happy with ivy when I used Doom - heck, even my friend is happy with Ido - It's fun to explore more efficient ways of jumping around - the Avy package is very popular for this (check out `avy-goto-char-timer` in particular) - Also, I'll note that I've been able to find a clean 1- or 2-pager reference card for every major package I've searched for

But, truly, the jackpot for me has been org-mode. At first, I used it as just another knowledge repo, like a more efficient (yet local and text-centric) version of Evernote. But, now, I'm working through the book _Getting Things Done_ and believe that there is no better tool on the planet than Emacs and org-mode for implementing the core and majority of that system. Regardless, having a specific implementation goal has aided my learning dramatically.

Specific to org-mode: - I started with the Org-mode Compact Guide[5], which I'd study and practice during 20-30 minute sessions every other day or so - it moves fast and I was happy with my org-mode skill after only having worked through Chapter 2 - However, perhaps the best way to start learning org-mode is Worg[6] - Occasionally, I've found that the Compact Guide lacks an important command for my own workflow, so I'll usually go to the Org-mode Manual[7] itself - When learning to configure Refiling, though, I found this[8] to be the best resource - Finally, I'm a big fan of "org indent mode" - it keeps Git diffs clean when changing indentation yet displays my contents appropriately indented

This is a lot, and I'm sure your path will be different than mine, but I hope you find some nuggets in there. Best of luck!

[1] https://github.com/plexus/chemacs [2] https://sachachua.com/blog/2013/05/how-to-learn-emacs-a-hand... [3] https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLPNohcoOBa5GGreLyc3nn... [4] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rCMh7srOqvw&list=PLhXZp00uXB... [5] https://orgmode.org/guide/ [6] https://orgmode.org/worg/ [7] https://orgmode.org/org.html [8] https://blog.aaronbieber.com/2017/03/19/organizing-notes-wit...

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