> You list a bunch of terms as if in a 'gotcha' manner, but pretty much all of those things have a different side to the story. I'll start with one thing, because addressing them all takes too long.

What is the "different side to the story" of involuntary organ harvesting of political and religious prisoners?

> You think the Hong Kong rioters are fighting for freedom?

Yes.

> Take a look at how they attack innocent women and elderly that simply disagree with them: https://twitter.com/Mondayfreemary/status/125844037836732416....

I looked but the video wouldn't play.

If that's what happened then that's also bad.

Anyway, I don't get my news from Twitter. I also don't get my news from mainstream Western new media because they are biased (I agree with you about that.)

> Furthermore, 'Liking China but opposing CCP' is, in actuality, a statement that doesn't make much sense once you understand how the CCP - Chinese people relationship actually works: https://twitter.com/Bkerrychina/status/1253635970236375040

I'll read that article, FWIW. Cheers.

But I can tell you what I mean when I say that. Chinese culture is a part of my culture. I grew up in San Francisco. There has always been a Chinese cultural influence in my life. The first Chinese New Years Parade was held here in 1851 (predating the communist party by ~70-80 years, eh?)

Also, there are millions of Chinese that do not live in China https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overseas_Chinese

So China as a people and a culture is much much older and larger than the communists. That is the China that lives in my affections. I want to add that Lao Tzu's "Tao Te Ching" is the greatest book of wisdom in the world (in my opinion.)

    CCP != China

> The CCP enjoys a pretty high level of support in China. Real support. Even many people who use VPN to use Twitter say they support the CCP. This support has grown tremendously in the past decade, in no small part thanks to all the demonization bullshit that western media tries to pull on China. Many Chinese read western media, think 'wtf is this overblown nonsense?', and end up supporting CCP more, even if they were previously neutral or slightly anti.

You cannot possibly know that with any certainty in a regime that punishes criticism!

You just can't.

People lie when you've got a big stick in your hand to beat them with if you don't like what you hear, eh?

> My point: by listing all those terms, you are painting a one-dimensional, stereotypical, overblown and distorted view of China.

"...of the CCP" you mean. I don't blame Chinese people for the crimes of the CCP.

> If you really want to help Chinese people, you gotta first understand where they come from.

A billion and a half people don't need any help from me.

> This begins with gaining an accurate image of what China is, not the media stereotype.

I don't know what to tell you. Like I said, I don't follow the media.

FWIW, I straight up studied China for awhile until I realized how vast it was and how silly and arrogant I was to think that I could possibly encompass it. Now all I want is for the CCP to stop trying to edit history, stop locking people in mass concentration camps, stop stealing their organs, and stop fucking with the South China Sea. Those seem simple enough for even me to opine on, in all my ignorance.