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Comment by madeofpalk | Hacker News Reader

I think that’s always been Microsoft’s point of the Surface line. The PC market is flooded with cheap laptops, and Microsoft wanted something premium to compete against Apple.

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Also, they don't want to jeopardize their relationship with PC manufacturers that buy Windows, so they aren't going to make a modestly priced regular laptop that competes with their customers.

IDK, I think it is more to set a baseline experience expectation. (Similar to what Nexus and Pixel did for google)

A LOT of PC manufacturers bundle a lot of crappy software with their laptops. MS hardware is just windows.

Microsoft is guilty too. I was pretty surprised when I saw a launcher for Candy Crush on a new computer. Go ahead and feature it in the store, but it doesn't belong in the menu of a new computer.

Well, they're not guilty in the sense that that is the baseline Windows experience, disappointing as that fact is.

It's pretty shameful that it's pre-installed even if you are doing a fresh install of windows on a machine you put together

Well step one should be to create a product that competes.

Higher resolution screen, better aspect ratio, touch and an ntrig pen. Seems they would need to make it more expensive for a fair competition.

Given the technical specifications of Apple's laptops it is not that hard for many of us.

It's not a fair competition to have in the same category a mobile device with a touchscreen and a laptop with a tiny touchbar.

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