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Yeah, not gonna use just any apt source. I'll pass.

You may already know this, but it's very tricky to package Golang projects in official debian repos because they require that every dependency be a separate package. This is a ton work both upfront and to maintain in the long-term, so we haven't made much progress on that front.

We'd love to get some help from people who are more comfortable with the debian ecosystem though! It's definitely something we want to achieve, but for the short term we had to make the decision to simply release the .deb via https://gemfury.com which provides us with free APT repo hosting for open source projects.

So you’re saying that even if your app compiles to a single binary, that’s a requirement?

I understand why, but it’s indeed quite a pain.

Yup. It's a bummer. https://go-team.pages.debian.net/packaging.html

Unless I'm missing something, that only says you need to package all dependencies if it is a library. Which means you could make a binary-only statically compiled package without adding a bunch of dependencies right?

Of course, that isn't helpful if you need to compile with extra plugins, but in that case you are probably using standard go tools and not apt packages anyway.

See https://github.com/Debian/dh-make-golang/issues/131

We were specifically told that we would need to have all our dependencies packaged. Debian needs to be able to validate that it was built entirely from source code from library packages, not from a binary built externally.

It's not a random source. The package is created by the release script in Caddy's repo: https://github.com/caddyserver/caddy/blob/e051e119d1dff75972...

There's ongoing effort to package Caddy into Debian. Until then, this is the alternative as stopgap.

Nowhere on the website old or new is any info available.

Thanks for pointing out

It's mentioned on the "Install" page in the "Documentation" part of the website https://caddyserver.com/docs/install#debian-ubuntu-raspbian :)

I swear I couldn't find that page... been looking for half an hour.

It's the second link in the top-left of the docs sidebar! I'm surprised you found that difficult to find.

Yeah guess I should go and sleep

That sidebar doesn't show on major landing pages, so it's not as silly a mistake as it might seem. I missed it for several minutes while looking around myself, as I started by following the prominent links on those landing pages. I only found the separate installation information page when someone else here helpfully linked to it.

Have you tried our site search? It's the same service that powers the HN search.

Honestly, I hadn't even noticed the search box. It appears in a slightly unusual place and styled sufficiently subtly that I totally overlooked it throughout my entire browsing session. (FWIW, this is on a very large and colour-calibrated monitor on my PC, so my experience here may not be typical.)

In case it's of interest, as a new visitor, I started browsing from your main v2 landing page, scanning down most of that information. Then I followed the prominent download and get started links near the top. I think I next went to the documentation area, and started browsing the links on the left, though I totally missed the "Install" link just under "Welcome" because my eye was drawn first to the Tutorials section and its getting started link, and then I went exploring from there on down.

I suppose that was an unfortunate combination of two things to miss. :-)

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