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Happening since morning, I got rid of Gapps on phone (for privacy concerns) and can't use K-9 Mail anymore, guess I'll have to resort to mobile browsers for email access.

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Can't you create an "application password" for IMAP?

That requires two-factor auth, which requires giving them a phone number.

You can't set up TOTP without giving Google a phone number?

I'm not sure if Google allows using phone notifications first (another 2fa method) and then switching to TOTP, but TOTP isn't allowed as the first choice.

They support using phone numbers and then switching to TOTP and deleting the phone number.

So how does this avoid giving the number to Google?

It doesn't. I think they were just confirming this:

> I'm not sure if Google allows using phone notifications first (another 2fa method) and then switching to TOTP...

Can you setup google voice?

Voice requires a phone number to link your GV number to

Only if you're in the US.

Can you use a Twilio number for $1/mo or some other burner service?

Twilio numbers, and most other VOIP numbers, cannot receive the short code text messages that Google uses for verification.

You're right, I forgot that it doesn't work the other way around (my Google Voice number definitely can receive shortcodes though).

Also for me this page (https://myaccount.google.com/lesssecureapps) says - "Setting could not be read".

Unless it's for work, why not use a different service or host your own mail server? I'd say setting up a mail server with projects like Mail In A Box is easier than living without GApps.

At least for me it's for work

Running your own mail server is a sure fire way of making sure that your email don't get through to anyone.

> Running your own mail server is a sure fire way of making sure that your email don't get through to anyone.

How is your experience so far with inboxing while using Mail In A Box?

I can confirm. Same thing for, started 3 hours ago. It seems to work again for the moment though (after one hour, no change from my side).

The setting is also gone for me!

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