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Comment by gfodor | Hacker News Reader

It will be so great if HP gets its groove back. It's really sad to see one of the great American companies flounder for so long. Ever since Carly merged it with Compaq they've been basically stagnant, IMHO, I think WebOS might really set them up for a big power play against Apple over the next few years.

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I just like to say that some of HPs offerings are really well done. Just like Apple they can't make a decent computer <$500. Unlike Apple, they'll happily take your money to prove it. I've held the 13" Envy and it could give a Macbook Pro a run. Also, their dm1z laptop comes in at half the price of a Macbook Air and is quite impressive from the reviews I've seen. I was tempted to get one but they are sold out.

As a WebOS developer I think most people don't know what they are missing. It's really a beautiful OS (far better than Android, and better in some respects to iOS) I hope it continues to improve. And now that the designer behind it as at Google (Matias Duarte), Android users will be in for a great surprise.

The recently launched dm1z seems to come pretty close to being a non sucky < $500 computer.

$549 - $100 instant rebate puts it into strange category of being over or under $500 depending on how you interpret it. In this day 3GB is the bare minimum for a new laptop.

The only PC I've ever hated was a HP. Overpriced for poor parts, slow as hell for its advertised purposes and using their provided software, and when parts broke I had to pay for special HP parts because they used custom sizing and screws.

Sounds a lot like Apple right before they bought NeXT.

Interestingly, my current favourite machine is an HP. But it's a business microserver, not a consumer desktop.

I've had good experiences with high-end hp laptops (HP Envy 13, 15). Beautiful and reliable without the Apple markup.

They also come loaded with bloatware, and the cases are super-cramped and leave no room for upgrades.

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