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This is no more a lisp discussion than a Johnny Cash discussion. You can ignore the top post if it doesn’t interest you.

As an aside, obesity is a disease that hormonally and mentally encourages self deception. The point of writing everything down and (most importantly) translating this list into objective calorie counts (usually looked up from a third party reference) is to remove this self deception. It is one of the most effective ways to leverage logic and willpower over habits and hormones. There are other ways of course.

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The post is a topic that discusses tech. The commenter discussed eating advice to “avoid getting fat” that is plainly unbelievable to people who experience weight gain following said advice and who don’t benefit from being told to starve themselves more or be more hyper aware of the fact that it doesn’t matter how little they eat they gain weight. The post had nothing to do with getting fat.

Of course I’m welcome to ignore everything that makes me feel bad for gaining weight but it’s shitty to be gaining weight and told it’s my fault for eating too much when I barely eat.

Have you tried lifting heavy weights? Follow a program like Starting Strength and make that calorie surplus work for you. Being skinnyfat isn’t really a compelling goal. Lift and gaining weight becomes a good thing, because it means you’re putting on muscle.

Starting strength is great for smaller men and women but can be hard on bigger people. Especially with Rippletoe's eating philosophy. I gained 15kg when I started SS so be careful. It was worth it and my numbers went up a ton, but it's always good to measure your options. If you're very large it is worthwhile to hire a trainer. They will teach you how to get started easily without jumping off the deep end.

The topic was an amusing anecdote from Peter Norvig with a tech slant. Other anecdotes are likely on topic

Regarding Obesity, I am not assigning blame or trying to make you feel bad. I’m calling the situation (that I too suffer from) a disease. There are various practices, with varying effectiveness for individuals, to approach the management of this disease. There is no fault in disease, there are only victims of it.

Portion control is one practice, as is writing down consumption. They might not be effective for you. I have been most successful with protein sparing modified fasts such as Lyle McDonald’s rapid fat loss and/or flexible dieting. He takes a very scientific approach to body composition and realistic food intake without shame.

> who experience weight gain following said advice

> it doesn’t matter how little they eat they gain weight

A few thoughts in no particular order:

* Weight gain (of the adipose sort) is quite literally your body storing energy.

* Energy can neither be created nor destroyed. [citation needed]

* Unless your gut is performing nuclear physics, your energy intake is directly equivalent to the food you consume.

* Obesity is primarily a hunger problem - you're feeling hungry when you don't require additional calories.

* Some foods (ex broccoli, leafy greens) are nearly physically impossible to consume too many calories from.

* Some foods (ex macadamia nuts) are _incredibly easy_ to consume too many calories from.

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