Huh, that sounds reasonable.
I'm guessing you would need to wait for immunization to be developed for restrictions on high risk people are loosened?
I'm guessing you would need to wait for immunization to be developed for restrictions on high risk people are loosened?
You can't quarantine vulnerable people completely. If everyone gets it, every bag of groceries is going to be covered in COVID and an enormous number of quarantined people will die.
You can't tell who's going to die from it.
You can't have everyone getting sick at once. The death rate will go up tremendously if nobody can get treatment when they have treatable symptoms. This is what "flattening the curve" means.
We don't have enough protective equipment, medical supplies, hospital beds, healthcare workers, or even morgue space. The only tool left is staying inside, and so that's what we're doing now.
"Herd immunity" uses the word "herd" because we don't normally use it to describe actions taken toward human beings.
Sweden absolutely bungled their response and have 10x the number of deaths from this as compared to their neighbors who shut shit down.
Yes you absolutely can. The workers interacting with the quarantined subset of the population could use PPE to avoid transmitting it to them. Packaging on groceries, as well as the grocery bag, can easily be disinfected before being transferred to the quarantined individual.
2. We're not going to train minimum wage workers and quarantined vulnerable individuals to follow sanitary procedures to any adequate degree.
3. We don't even have enough trained medical workers to treat dying people, so no they aren't going to make the deliveries. This problem will only get worse if you go all "herd immunity" because a shitload of people will be in the hospital being triaged because they were classified as "non-vulnerable"
The only option the US has is quarantine, because it is a failed state.
Of course quarantining part of the population is hard, but I fail to see how it is harder than quarantining the whole population
Even if we did have tests, at some point nearly everyone is going to have the virus- especially delivery workers. There will literally not be enough people to make clean deliveries.
Quarantining the population is easier for us because the majority of us have dwellings already. We do not have tests or ppe.
There are also other ways to sanitize these distributions channels, e.g. we know the virus can only last so long on cardboard etc.
I disagree strongly that securing a fraction of our population against a disease is less feasible or practical than what we currently are doing
>especially delivery workers. There will literally not be enough people to make clean deliveries.
Will have had
I don't see why training delivery workers to follow sanitary procedures would be infeasible either.
Whatever costs/challenges in ensuring no disease transmission from the majority to the quarantined minority pales in comparison to the challenges posed by completely collapsing the economy by requiring everyone to be quarantined.
>>a shitload of people will be in the hospital being triaged because they were classified as "non-vulnerable"
The chances of a person infected with the coronavirus ending up in critical condition or dead from COVID19 are vastly smaller if they're under 45.
Couple weeks? Sure.
3 months? Barely, it seems.
1 year? No. It just won't work.
(I don't think we'll get to that point, but I think that the point stands: quarantine is a short term fix.)
Some experts in Italy have called for quarantines up to 24 months until there is a vaccine. The net effect this has done is just to scare the population, at this point.
I hope we don't have to go that route.
Just as a random factoid, somewhere I was just reading that someone was doing testing of surfaces in a hospital, and on average they found maybe 80% contaminated with the virus, but the floor of the pharmacy was 100% even though no patients had been in there...
Other objects were not as high as I recalled, but computer mice in the ICU were 75%.
https://wwwnc.cdc.gov/eid/article/26/7/20-0885_article
Also see table: https://wwwnc.cdc.gov/eid/article/26/7/20-0885-t1