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> Human rights violations on free movement and association.

Can you be specific? No one is preventing you from visiting a friend or going to a private residence...

> Home confinement must be voluntary

Is it not?

> Everyone should be staying home. No one should be using force to ensure that.

Who is using force to ensure people stay home?

I'm really shocked at the difference in the way the lockdowns are perceived by some people. I mean, just read the text of your local order. Here's the one for California, for example: https://covid19.ca.gov/stay-home-except-for-essential-needs/

Now... read through that and tell me exactly which provisions constitute a "Human right violation" to you?

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The "shelter in place" orders in many California counties don't allow for visiting a friend or going to a private residence. This is absolutely a violation of the right to free assembly. Temporarily restricting that right might be appropriate to slow down the pandemic, but it is technically a human rights violation.

> The "shelter in place" orders in many California counties don't allow for visiting a friend or going to a private residence.

Which counties? Are there any people who have been prevented from visiting friends, or prosecuted for doing so?

I mean, I'm seeing a whole lot of screaming about Freedom here and very little evidence of any such abridgement.

All of the Bay Area counties have prohibited visiting friends. It is not listed as "essential travel" and the counties have threatened to fine or imprison violators.

https://www.sccgov.org/sites/covid19/Pages/order-health-offi...

So, because it's not in a list it's therefore prohibited and thus a human rights violation? Even though it says quite clearly you can meet your friends outdoors as long as you observe social distancing? (13. iii.)

And sorry, I missed the news I guess. What's the cite for people who have been threatened with fines or (!!) prison for visiting friends?

You really don't think you're making making a bit much of this?

Death is also a human rights violation. If you party it up and sneeze at me at s grocery store then you're infringing mine.

If we're both in public, we're both accepting a level of risk. Your decision to accept that level of risk is not an infringement by another person.

If we are both in public and you decide to use your fully licensed and 2A permissible gun to start shooting in random directions then you will be liable for the consequences. Declaring that just by going out in public everyone else has decided to assume the risk that you are a dangerous asshole is not going to be acceptable and you will face legal consequences for your negligent behavior. Just because the weapon is a virus you may carry rather than a gun will not change your negligence.

Is it okay if we go in public and I smoke on your face.

From the page you linked "public events and gatherings" are banned. That sounds like restricting freedom of assembly to me.

Clearly forcing many businesses to shut down is restricting the right to work, and forcing schools to shut down or go online restricts the right to education.

Outside of individual states, the travel bans being instituted around the world are definitely restrictions on freedom of movement.

Disclaimer: I don't live in the US and the lockdowns in my country were (and to some degree still are) far more draconian than this. However, I can still see why people in the US are upset about what their government has required of them.

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