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You forgot

- can only resize a window from one corner, and that corner may be off the screen in certain cases so that you can't move the window to a position where the corner is even visible (this just bit me this week)

- still doesn't understand how to fullscreen programs (windows maximize function is the single best OS function I've seen that allows a user to focus on just ONE thing). I think this is fixed in the upcoming OS X but I don't have it.

- liters the screen, the doc, the global menu with all kinds of state icons to show running programs and background services, but doesn't have a built-in notification system so that the users have to install http://growl.info/

and more and more.

That said, it still manages to be a great OS. It was miles ahead of XP. About par with Vista.

But sadly, it's lagging behind Windows 7. And the new OS X versions just don't make me terribly excited. I'm ready for something new.

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  > still doesn't understand how to fullscreen programs

You're working off of two definitions of maximize though. It's not that OSX "doesn't understand" how to make an app run at fullscreen. It's just a design decision to only maximize to the document's dimensions. I'm not saying that I agree with that decision, but saying that OS X "doesn't understand how to fullscreen programs," is implying that Apple is attempting to make the function work like it does on Windows, but fails at it.

I've been hit by your first point as well (not often, but often enough since I switch between resolutions frequently), and if you press the maximize button it will often (not always though) "raise" the lower portion up above the dock enough so you can resize. Not the most intuitive, but it works. I agree with #2 as well - that's one thing Windows does just right, and I'm glad to see that could be coming in Lion.

> I've been hit by your first point as well (not often, but often enough since I switch between resolutions frequently), and if you press the maximize button it will often (not always though) "raise" the lower portion up above the dock enough so you can resize. Not the most intuitive, but it works.

I'm not arguing with you here, just adding a data point about how unintuitive it is.

I certainly agree that you can do this—but, to my mind, you're then re-sizing the window in its maximised state; and, if you click again to ‘un-maximise’ it, then it'll be right back to the inaccessible position that it had before. I don't know if this is any sort of serious objection, in the sense that it can actually cause trouble, but it nags at my mind when I use it: “You don't really want that window maximised! Go back to its rest state!” I therefore usually wind up with the solution of “Find a big enough monitor and re-size there.”

(By the way, I love Mac OS, but definitely hate this behaviour.)

Adding few more.

- No cut-paste.

- No tabs in Finder.

- The missing delete key. (Backspace is renamed as delete)

- The not-so-modern Terminal. (hence the wide usage of iTerm)

- Command-C / Command-V for cut and paste in OS X (if that's what you're looking for) - TotalFinder is a nice Finder replacement: http://totalfinder.binaryage.com/ - includes tabs and some other nifty features.

Hope that helps a bit...

Command-C / Command-V is copy-paste. Also I do use TotalFinder as a finder replacement. :)

Command+x is cut, same as ctrl+x on windows. Might be application specific as I only tried in Chrome and Textedit but I'm fairly certain it is OS wide.

> Command+x is cut, same as ctrl+x on windows. Might be application specific as I only tried in Chrome and Textedit but I'm fairly certain it is OS wide.

As mdaniel (http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=2294066) mentions, it bizarrely does not work in one very specific, and presumably intentional, place—the Finder.

Right on, TotalFinder has solved pretty much all my remaining gripes with Finder.

I believe the poster meant "Command-X" on a file, not on text. In all other graphical shells, if I wish to move a file from one place to another, I do not have to have two separate windows open. Maybe Apple doesn't view this as a problem, but if you come from an OS that permits it, you miss it under OSX.

It is especially weird given that CMD-c/CMD-v does work in Finder, just not CMD-x. That leads me to believe that it was intentionally omitted for some bizarre reason.

fn+backspace is delete.

Yup, handy of them to label that functionality, eh?

Wow! I have been a mac user for almost 2 years now, and I didn't know that.

Thank you.

i would prefer to always use Linux, but my company gives all the engineers Macs, so that's what I now use. I miss Linux deeply, but maintaining two dev environments, not to mention context switching wrt key commands, drove me to the brink.

On the positive side, OSX is still unix. MacVim rules. OSX fixes some of the Linux issues that drove me mad (like power mgmt & plugging in an external monitor). And I've gotten around the screen resize issue mentioned here w/ a little 3rd party app called sizeup... Not ideal, but a workable solution that keeps me productive on the platform.

w/ a little 3rd party app called sizeup... Not ideal, but a workable solution that keeps me productive on the platform.

One of the nice things about OS X for sure is that many of the major pain points in the raw OS can be resolved with 3rd party applications. The community, tired of dealing with these minor unaddressed annoyances, has usually resolved most of these issues on their own -- there are 2 or 3 apps of some kind for most of the major OS rough spots.

One of the bad things about OS X for sure is that many of the major pain points in the raw OS have to be resolved with 3rd party applications. The community, tired of dealing with these minor unaddressed annoyances, usually has to resolve most of these issues on their own -- there are 2 or 3 apps of some kind for most of the major OS rough spots.

your first two points are mostly solved in Lion.

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