FAQ Off: An Open Source Project to Defeat Harassment Mobs and Disinformation
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I'm not looking forward to the future where every time I try to discuss something I'm linked to an (out of date and poorly maintained) playbook that has obvious flaws in it's arguments but is considered an irrefutable source of truth by it's proponents. At least when you're dealing with people on an individual level you can point out when there are issues with an argument.
I know it's hard to have productive discussion about a lot of these things but I can't help but think it would be much better to try and teach people basic epistemology, how to assess what you should count as evidence, how much weight you should give different standards of evidence, rules of debating in good faith, etc.
All these tools for "taking control of the narrative" will be used by your enemies. If you're going to make a tool like that realize that everyone can use tools like that, even your ideological opponents. Try to think about the consequences of your actions, what happens if everyone adopts this technology for "controlling the narrative"? What happens if the "alt right" this post mentions starts using it?
I guess it's nice to make the script you're following explicit though.
The alt-right already takes control of the narrative.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wmVkJvieaOA
Even if this platform ever "took off" enough to be used by bad people, the only thing that would happen is we'd have a level playing field.
We've seen this time and time again. If you're going to try to use that tactic at least don't be so obvious about it. Do what the geek-feminism-wiki or derailing-for-dummies does and put all your thought-terminating cliche's into a wiki that you can claim is authoritative or otherwise supported be science, and link people to that (for bonus points tie identity politics into it so that the arguments can only be used against people in your outgroup).
You're trying to use technology to make a fully-general-counterargument which is just bad epistemology. What's worse is that if you normalize that style of discourse it will be used against you to much greater effect then you can hope to wield it. The thing about tools like this is that they're force multipliers, if you're not already winning bringing in a force multiplier like this won't help. Force-multipliers inherently favour entrenched power structures unless there's some reason why your group would be better at using them, some asymmetry.
https://slatestarcodex.com/2017/03/24/guided-by-the-beauty-o... for more on asymmetric memetic warfare.
Seriously, if you're going to mess around with persuasion technology be very careful.
Also I just realized I linked you to the wrong article: https://slatestarcodex.com/2019/06/06/asymmetric-weapons-gon...
That will totally work.
To prevent spam and abuse, it's limited to authenticated users. I noodled over ways to make it work with anonymous users, but that's ultimately a losing battle. (See also: TrollForge.)
The admins can decide their access policy (invite-only or open registration, Twitter auth or username+password, etc.).
The platform is open source software, and I'm trying to make it as easy and accessible for folks to set it up as I can.
But couldn't this tool also be used to spread it? Also, does it prevent circular reasoning?
Thanks! I'm a huge fan of Snopes <3
> But couldn't this tool also be used to spread it?
It's a tool; a platform. Anything that can be used for good can be used for bad.
I'm mostly circulating this in queer/pro-science circles, in the hopes that the critical mass of early adopters will dictate the culture surrounding the platform.
> Also, does it prevent circular reasoning?
No. You can create cycles in the Follow-Ups that loop infinitely. It might even be convenient to do so in many cases! But that definitely does not prevent circular reasoning.