Do Covid-19 death rates by age suggest a path to staying open in a second wave?
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Environmental: More researched and standardized procedures for interacting with those at risk. For example, we should determine if/how items need to be sanitized when an at-risk person receives them (such a grocery/food deliveries, etc...). Environmental changes could also include physical requirements, such as meeting such persons through plexiglass panels or mandating protective gear.
Legal: Labor and welfare/disability laws need to adapt to the situation so those at risk are not forced to re-enter society in order to support themselves and their families. Not everyone at risk is elderly and already in retirement; many people in their prime working years have underlying conditions that affect their health, but were still able to work with few or no limitations (until COVID-19). Not every job can be completed at home, and not everyone has savings to stay home indefinitely. Without support from the government or their employers, they'll be between a proverbial rock and hard place.
Another issue is low-risk people who live with high-risk people. Should a low-risk partner stay home if the other is high-risk? How will society support those situations?
Once we can beat proper stats out of the government with large-scale testing, it may become clear that we are already well on our way to herd immunity, and that the vast majority of healthy people without serious secondary issues will be fine (perhaps unhappy and hurting, but will survive).
Of course, encourage any fearful or ill people to continue segregation.
But, this segregation of otherwise healthy low risk population just has to stop. It is nuts.
https://reason.com/2020/04/17/covid-19-lethality-not-much-di...
https://statmodeling.stat.columbia.edu/2020/04/19/fatal-flaw...
I worry about these things based simply on reading the anecdotes of many younger, healthy people who have dealt with this virus. It's extremely clear in those anecdotes that this virus is nothing like the common cold or the flu. Yet so much of the rhetoric seems to make that assumption.
I'd hate to take the "this is silly, let's open things up for the healthy" approach only to be in a situation 20 years from now where we are dealing with the misery of mass-scale respiratory disease that gets linked back to these infections.
edit to try and preempt the downvotes: I am supportive of social distancing and I'm observing it pretty strictly. But I also know a lot of people who are going to be in a lot of trouble if we're in this state for too long. We should be aggressively trying to get data that helps us get back to as normal a life as we can, safely.
Trouble is, we haven't ramped up testing enough and we're heading toward opening prematurely. According to Harvard we need about three times as much daily testing to open safely: https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/04/17/us/coronaviru...
The evidence so far seems to show that there is immunity to it after recovery (as well as the rest of the corona viruses). Immunity is not permanent, it last 6-18 months from what I understand.
Physical distancing is another alternative but is enormously expensive to the economy.
Herd immunity without a vaccine is condemning thousands of people to die.
But my reasoning is that "condemning thousands of people to die" is the wrong way to look at it. You can look at it as "saving a million lives". Hell, by making driving legal "we are condemning 35,000 people to die every year". At a certain point, certain tradeoffs become reasonable.
https://www.npr.org/2020/04/15/835571843/episode-991-lives-v...
So even by the standard of the argument you are making, it makes dollars and sense to lock down.
It's ethically vile, and deserves nothing but spit.
That anyone will die should be reason enough to slow down and do the right thing. Covid-19 has revealed how thin some margins are for businesses we need to survive. Condemning the sick to die and going back to normal isn't just cruel and evil - it's shortsighted and foolish.
We need to change.