Iranian teen shocks Magnus Carlsen to win $14k prize
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update: better than me. lol
Created a hn tournament (finished): https://lichess.org/tournament/rWPYf1fK
Created a second tournament: https://lichess.org/tournament/Wg6CHtmp
Another haxor created a team we can all join to keep in touch: https://lichess.org/team/hacker-news
GLHF ;)
A Pakistani newcomer ended up taking everybody by surprise in a big Tekken 7 tournament trough his unconventional way of playing.
This was apparently the result of Pakistani arcade culture existing in its own isolated underground niche, in which a completely independent meta for playing the game evolved.
International top tier players even traveled to Pakistan to learn and train that style of playing with local players to incorporate elements of it to their own.
The secret Pakistan masters of Tekken: Pakistani players seemingly came out of nowhere to dominate the classic fighting game this year.
https://theoutline.com/post/8447/tekken-pakistan-lahore-figh...
Magnus POV: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rJtyQLkmRsU Alireza POV: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tb9RtOBuLm0
Best moment: https://youtu.be/rJtyQLkmRsU?t=3958
Of the many spectacular moments and reactions, the best was Magnus winning a lost position and believing it won him the match (and implying Alireza has much to learn before being able to beat him). Magnus was still a professional when defeated, but emotions were running high at the point in the match.
I also really love fishing, mostly for different reasons, but it's multi generational too of course.
Chess theory has a new Renaissance due to neutral networks and we will see newer GM's adapting to it.
He narrowly lost an online banter blitz match. This is not blitz, since also you have to talk while playing, which does not seem to suit Carlsen's personality.
In classical, you can often "almost lose", except that Carlsen does not "actually lose", as exemplified by his ongoing record non-loss streak.
He can't be 50-100 points higher than himself. Hikaru is #1.
Are you forgetting about Hikaru Nakamura?
I stopped watching those as almost every tournament ends in armagedon. Its a statement of the incredible skills top players poses, but its incredibly boring to watch draw after draw.
Quicker time controls are more dynamic and allow to play subpar move to throw off your opponent. Often you can see some crazy attacks.
Right now he's spending a lot of time promoting chess24 with banter blitz, hanging around on lichess playing 100 games bullet matches, commenting on chess24 and other things that would profoundly ruin anyone else's concentration.
So, no big deal if he very occasionally loses (online!) games.
It reminds me of the tennis player John McEnroe, win or lose we remember him for his outbursts, he made a lot of advertising money because of that.
In short, Carlsen was probably beaten, but I wouldn't rule out the possibility that he was just winning at a different game (exposure or money).
Current crop of GMs benefited greatly from short feedback loops by using computers, but they still operate in explored problem space.
Easily? No. The only player to have the top rating longer than 10 years is kasparov.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_FIDE_chess_world_numbe...
> if you're a young prodigy you may breach into top level in your teenage years and last well until your 50s or 60s. Of course you won't be #1 this whole time (check out Lasker's longevity though) but you will always remain a top contender.
No. There is nobody 50 or older in the fide ranking ( top 100 ).
Chess is a mentally and physically draining sport. Top players tend to drop off considerably in their late 30s and 40s as younger talent takes over.
The age distribution of the top 100 Classical players is:
16-19: 5
20-29: 39
30-39: 40
40-49: 12
50-51: 4
That's because you are looking at a FIDE list which starts in 1971. Mikhail Botvinnik was the world champion from a nearly uninterrupted period from 1948 to 1963 (he lost to Tal once).
Capablanca was undefeated from 10 February 1916 to 21 March 1924 and remained a contender for best player in the world until his retirement in 1931.
Of course "easily" is a vast exaggeration.
Drivers become aś good as they every can in pure pure driving skill in karting when they are still teenagers. All skills needed for driving fast are developed early.
Rest of the career in F3/F2/GP2 feeder series to F1 is just maturing psychologically, getting experience and learning stuff you need outside the track. Ultimate skill level is already there or not. Drivers will eventually fade out when their physical performance declines in late 30's.
(actual career performance depends on cars, teams, money, business and marketing)
"In cars, one person died per 5.5 million passenger hours traveled."
So skiing seems 4x more dangerous.
Anecdotally, I've read that one hospital in the Swiss Alps was struggling money wise, because the ski season was ended early, and ski accidents were a major revenue for them.
This doesn't take individual behavior into account though. A lot of people are skiing more cautiously than the insane risk takers who kill themselves in avalanches or falls in deep woods or backcountry. Also, the driving to the ski resort is likely to be more dangerous than regular driving because you're more likely to encounter icing, snow on the road, and low visibility conditions.
All in my guess would be that the driving is more dangerous for most skiers.
For the last decade, every ski trip I've done has required either 4+ hours of driving or a cross-country plane trip. Add in the fact that much of that driving is on icy, narrow mountain roads in storm conditions, and the stats that other people shared make it clear that driving is the bigger risk to me.
Anyone knows if this can be watched Live?
* There's a dispute over win vs draw, with a great behind the scenes camera work.
* "If he can talk, this is a coffee house!"
* They move so fast, they can't keep the pieces on the correct tile!
To Appeal Commitie to Fide
during the blitz game with Carlsen when
I had 2 or 4 second my opponnet speak
Loudly in his Language and of course if this
will be allowed then every body can do this
and of course everybody lose their consentratoin
and I want to request appeal to check
with camera.Basically have some empathy, losing is rough & in a tournament most players are losing, for all we know he just needed to sleep on it & came around the next day
Why doesn't the person im supposed to empathise with instead empathise with his opponent and not throw a tantrum?
> Why doesn't the person im supposed to empathise with instead empathise with his opponent and not throw a tantrum?
Because he's a kid and we often have differing expectations for children than we do adults.
How many of us could handle that kind of pressure at his age?
From the video of the play, it doesn't look like Alireza threw a fit. Losing on time I'd be frustrated enough to whack the table. It is a tense moment. What seems unsportsmanlike is his interactions with the arbiter.
>I will add some additional information from the broadcast and what microphones picked up during the norwegian live coverage.
>After Alireza lost on time (he fumbled his king, not the bishop), he claimed that there was no mating material and that it should be a draw. There was then a pretty loud discussion at the table, when the arbiter ruled the game as a draw. Magnus claimed there was mating material on the board, the arbiter still ruled a draw. We could then hear Magnus say "Who's ruling is that? Is it yours?" since he thought the arbiter was influenced by Alireza. The head arbiter then came over and ruled a loss on time for Alireza since there was mating material on the board. They moved to the side, and the camera and microphones picked up a heated debate between the head arbiter and the Alireza team and they needed the rules explained to them. After a lot of fuzz, Alireza was shown the very clear rule that it is only a draw if there is "not mating material left by any means possible for Carlsen".
>Then Alireza changed his story and claimed that Carlsen spoke something in Norwegian and had disturbed him. The arbiter then said he should have stopped the clock and addressed it when it happened, and again Alireza claimed that this happened when there was 2 seconds left on the clock and it would be impossible. This was the second time he changed his story.
>The head arbiter ruled that he lost on time and if he had any concerns about Carlsens behaviour he should have adressed it at the table.
>Alireza and his team put in an official complaint, claiming that Carlsen said something in Norwegian and distrubed when Alireza had only seconds left on the clock.
>While the complaint was reviewed, the TV team showed the entire endgame. It shows Magnus spontaneously whisper a norwegian word when he blundered his C-pawn. Carlsen had at the time about 2-3 seconds on the clock, Alireza more than 8 and a completely winning position. If he wanted he had time to complain, but was winning on the board. They played for about 2 more minutes and Alireza fumbled pieces 3 times and lost a lot of time on the clock.
>It was only when he lost on time, all these excuses showed up. The jury overruled his complaint, and Alireza lost on time. He was extremely sympathetic in the interviews before this, but this circus after his loss was an embarassment for him and his team.
CNN is trash.
I think you meant “classical chess”, which is a time format.
Where do you see the word standard?
p.s: As always: responses > downvotes.
Btw, I think you are mistaken about Levon Aronian. See recent tragedy with his wife. Occurred in Armenia. He might be living in Berlin part time as its closer to all the action.
> I doubt that Carlsen was referred to as "Norwegian teen"
Which he was, apparently at least 292 times
I’m more annoyed by the headline’s implication that Carlsen would find this defeat shocking. He wouldn’t. Magnus and Alireza have been acquainted for a few years now. They’ve played many times. Carlsen is fully aware of how strong his opponent is.
Now obviously this wasn't a fully serious match format, but then again Carlsen prides himself on his dominance under short time controls.
after all, it was in rapid playoffs that he defended his world champion crown against both Karjakin and Caruana. It was only once it came to that when he would simply blow them out of the water.
> Before the clash, the world no.1 player didn't underestimate Firouzja, calling him "by far my biggest challenge."
https://www.seattletimes.com/nation-world/norwegian-teen-top...
As for not using his name, try and write the headline both mentioning his name, and his age. It's just clunky.
It's CNN, not ChessBase. They have no reason to assume any chess-related who-is-who knowledge on the reader's part.
It's all trash. The headline is insulting to Magnus. It's insulting to Firouzja. It's insulting to the readers.
The younger someone doing something noteworthy is, the more the press (at least in North America) will headline their age.
Here's Orson Welles at age 10: https://twitter.com/JFrankensteiner/status/11919269504508805...
Not entirely true, but that he had to leave Iran to pursue his chess career is interesting.