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Anyone who still thinks this is about 'protecting' people from themselves is just deluding themselves. When there's footage of children being harassed and arrested by cops for selling lemonade in public or old folks being dragged off trains by groups of cops for not wearing a mask and talk from governments of allowing law enforcement to enter people's homes on suspicion of 'being sick' there's something seriously fucked up going on.

I don't give a shit how many people get sick from covid-19 at this point, I'm not going to accept living in some fucked up dictatorship because people are scared of dying.

People die all the time. I don't care, get over it. That's what life is, you live and then you die. Everyone living right now will die some day. Period. Living your life like a prisoner because some authority tells you you need to be scared of this is unacceptable to me and.in all honesty I would rather be dead then live in a world like that.

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> Living your life like a prisoner because some authority tells you you need to be scared of this is unacceptable to me and.in all honesty I would rather be dead then live in a world like that.

Stay-at-home orders and social distancing guidelines are meant to be temporary until

1) treatments for Covid-19 are available

2) a vaccine for SARS-CoV-2 is available

3) and/or immunity is widespread.

Your rhetorical posture makes sense if you live in a dictatorship and are confined from now on. However, if you live, say, in the US (which I do), such posturing and impatience seem counterproductive.

>Stay-at-home orders and social distancing guidelines are meant to be temporary until

It's funny how quickly the goalposts moved from "flattening the curve" to "vaccine or widespread immunity." Unless we move back to a "let everyone get sick at the fastest rate that doesn't overwhelm the hospital system" then I'm stuck inside based on lies, by a government that likes flexing it's muscle more than providing the liberty they're ostensibly be principled upon.

> It's funny how quickly the goalposts moved from "flattening the curve" to "vaccine or widespread immunity."

There has been no "goalposts moved".

Flattening the curve has been and continues to be effective to maintain hospital capacity. Period.

Social distancing and shelter-at-home prevent viral contagion. Eliminating social distancing and easing shelter-at-home restrictions may spike the infection rate, which would undo efforts to flatten the curve. Hospital capacity would diminish or possibly disappear.

Your objection about "goalposts moved" makes no sense in light of the basic logic that flattening the curve is ongoing until the virus can be nullified.

No, they were meant to exist only to avoid hospital overflow. The vast majority of hospitals haven't come close to overflow despite a strong belief by governments that they would even with social distancing, ergo, the predictions justifying the lockdowns are invalidated and it should be ending already.

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