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The world is full of deadly deseases anyway, so endangered people allways have to look out and vaccines allmost never guarantee 100% immunity.
The combination of rapid spread and not negligible mortality makes covid19 a much higher threat globally than most other diseases, as has been shown repeatedly. Even a lot of not-at-risk individuals will die from it. We really shouldn't be arguing over these facts anymore. and in fact, we're still lucky. nothing guarantees that we might not have a worse infection in the future that is as contagious but much deadlier (think of something like Ebola but much more contagious).
if we can somehow diminish the threat, it's worth thinking about it. it might be that the tradeoffs are not worth it (locking everyone up for two years for example wouldn't qualify), but it's still worth thinking about options. that includes imperfect options like a vaccine.
Well actual death tolls for the US would be around 60,000 which is comparable of number of new suicides due to lockdowns.
again, all these numbers have been debated so many times before.
sigmoids tend to reflect nature more realistically.
so, as long as herd immunity is not high, the curve is approximately exponential.
That's not true. Very worst case scenario will be 160,000 deaths based on our last data. But around 60,000 is more probable even we go out of lockdown right now.
Ref: https://covid19.healthdata.org/united-states-of-america
The numbers you cite all assume social distancing measures, it says so at the very top (and also the forecast only goes to the end of August, there is no guarantee that the virus doesn't come back in winter or so, we saw this with the Spanish flu).
A vaccine is not an imperfect option. It is our standard way of defeating diseases. Only problem here is, there is none ready, but several on its way. This is the only reason why covid19 is a higher threat and not really because of the disease itself. Neither our medical system, nor our immune system is prepared for it.
So we need a vaccine, for the risk groups, yes. But why do we need to give up on privacy and freedom for it, I do not really understand.
Things like ID2020 will be expanded. The forced vaccination program through excluding participation in society hasn't started yet. Chances are your kid will not be allowed in school without one at some point.
To a lot of people who were in tech in the '90s, he was also a villain to society when he was younger.
https://www.thenation.com/article/society/bill-gates-foundat...
Closest I could find was a conspiracy theory linking a separate study into using quantum dots to record vaccination. https://stm.sciencemag.org/content/11/523/eaay7162
http://news.mit.edu/2019/storing-vaccine-history-skin-1218
"Funded by the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation and the Koch Institute "
Thankfully this won't fly in Germany, because the Nazis tattooed concentration camp victims with numbers. Not sure about the U.S. though.
However, for some reason ID2020 is distancing themselves from this quantum dot approach.
https://www.factcheck.org/2020/04/conspiracy-theory-misinter...
"The Gates Foundation has advocated for expanded testing and has funded vaccine research, but neither of those involves implanted microchips."
Technically true. Quantum dots aren't exactly microchips.
Practically, one is required to obtain an ID to do many common activities. Being able to theoretically opt-out of these systems is a fiction that forms a cornerstone of their justification.
Let me guess... Mark of the Beast, rise of the Antichrist, New World Order, FEMA death camps, blah blah blah. Same stuff, different decade.
Basic economics there.
I won't be getting my "ID" card if they ever make one.
The ROI for that scheme seems terrible, but maybe I just don't understand basic economics well enough. It seems obvious to me that they could make more money charging less for the vaccine and more to companies and government for implementation and data infrastructure.