"We're committed to open source ... open source makes the best code in the world ... were innovators in open source ... we just decided to give ourselves a competitive advantage" ... WTF!?
Its like in one breath he snuck it in. Bullcrap.
"We're committed to open source ... open source makes the best code in the world ... were innovators in open source ... we just decided to give ourselves a competitive advantage" ... WTF!?
Its like in one breath he snuck it in. Bullcrap.
All they have done in this case is make a legal, wise, and likely necessary move to protect themselves. Nothing they have done damages the kernel or prevents you from getting it. Nothing they have done damages any other OS projects.
Sounds like you've got a whole mouthful of sour grapes there...
And until recently, they did.
I bet some comments may even help you figure out why they made a specific change.
Unfortunately, I believe all Oracle will just pay some proxy for RH support and get the same individual patches.
Now in your post that I was replying to, on the other hand, you clearly seem to be talking about the broader social contract that the open source community is organized around. Red Hat makes the best code and documentation they have available to anyone, and in return the community does the same.
Red Hat has loudly trumpeted the superiority of this social contract over the proprietary avenue. Now their documentation has become proprietary. That says to me they believe the social contract and the business model they've built around it are somehow flawed.
Personally, I don't have a dog in this fight, and so I don't feel at all entitled to their documentation. If I'm working with Red Hat I'll be working with someone who has a support contract. But if I were, for example, someone involved with Fedora who had worked on resolving issues in Red Hat, I would feel like Red Hat was acting improperly, regardless of legality. Are you arguing that it's okay to free ride on the work of the community and not give back what you create? Stop muddying the waters by flitting back and forth between morality and legality, please.
Actually Oracle started copying RHEL4 as Oracle Unbreakable Linux, but it wasn't a threat until the RHEL5 variant.
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Seems like all it requires is that you say "We changed this file, and we changed it on this date." I suppose one could question whether giving detailed information about the changes is simply the "spirit of the rule" or if it's actually "going above and beyond."
Red Hat's documentation is better now, but documentation tends to rot when people can't see it until they're in the midst of using it. I feel entitled to the knowledge base because I'm not paying for something unless I have a good idea of the sort of issues I'll have when using it, and what the company does to resolve them. Red Hat has made a fine business respecting this up until now.
On the other hand, a lack of publicly available documentation is less important when source is available.
If, hypothetically, they were able to close, to own, the source they were dealing with, it really wouldn't matter how much they'd invested in the previously open source. It would be just source they invested in 'cause they wanted to sell it and there would be nothing "altruistic" about it (and no benefit for any who didn't pay them).
So, no, they can't compensate for withholding information by investing in open source. They might currently be only withholding an "acceptable" amount but their investment in open source and their information-withholding can't be naively compared to see if they "balance out".