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A mask is a limited resource.

WHO says masks do not protect people who do not have coronavirus and they shouldn't wear them, only people who have coronavirus should wear them not to infect others.

WHO says shortage in masks is putting healthcare professionals at risk of being infected by coronavirus, so stop buying masks

This is similar to saying that kevlar vests do not protect you so stop buying them, and that you buying them puts soldiers at risk because they need their protection.

Here's a tweet from the U.S. Surgeon General[0]:

Quote:

""" Seriously people- STOP BUYING MASKS!

They are NOT effective in preventing general public from catching #Coronavirus, but if healthcare providers can't get them to care for sick patients, it puts them and our communities at risk! bit.ly/37Ay6Cm """

[0]: https://twitter.com/Surgeon_General/status/12440202923658158...

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The fact that a kevlar vest can stop a bullet does not mean you are protected. In order to be protected in a warzone you need:

1. Intel. Nothing can protect you from an aviabomb except you knew it was coming and hid before bomber arrived.

2. Your squad.

3. Military training.

4. Good supply lines.

5. A TON of other gear.

6. A vest.

Now let's say you bought a vest in the warzone and military didn't have enough because of that and lost and now enemy approaches you. Is a vest going to protect you? No, absolutely not. Not in the slightest. The fact that a kevlar vest can stop a bullet means zilch if battle is lost. The enemy doesn't even need to come to you, now that they control infrastructure you will come to them and do whatever they say because otherwise you'll starve (if economy collapses you have greater chances of dying then from contracting covid-19).

> buying them puts soldiers at risk because they need their protection

Yes, exactly that. So yes, stop buying vests, because military can use them to protect themselves and you and you can't.

> The fact that a kevlar vest can stop a bullet does not mean you are protected. In order to be protected in a warzone you need:

> 1. Intel. Nothing can protect you from an aviabomb except you knew it was coming and hid before bomber arrived.

We're talking about bullets and Kevlar vests. That's like saying a vaccines do not protect you from a bomb so vaccines are useless. It's like saying that locking the door is useless because there are thieves who know how to pick locks. Or that putting a seatbelt is useless because a plane can crash down on you. I don't think this is how the world works, nor do I think this is how a human thinks. It's a spectrum with tradeoffs.

Kevlar vests protect you from bullets. You are more protected than someone without a Kevlar vest. Wearing a mask protects you. you are more protected from bullets wearing a protective vest.

I really hope you are trolling. If not, I hope you are in charge of no people. If you are, I hope they have common sense and don't listen to you. If they can't, I hope you don't nobody suffers the consequences of your judgment and logic. I'm at the point I really hope I've been fooled by a chat bot.

All the best.

> I really hope you are trolling. If not, I hope you are in charge of no people. If you are, I hope they have common sense and don't listen to you. If they can't, I hope you don't nobody suffers the consequences of your judgment and logic. I'm at the point I really hope I've been fooled by a chat bot.

Please, no need to devolve into insults. I really believe you don't understand what WHO is actually saying about masks. But I don't think you are a bad person or something. If what you said about setting remote workspace for your company is true, it is likely you have actually saved a life. See, it is not that hard to commend a person you are arguing with.

I think you misunderstand that WHO is not your personal physician, nor it should be. When they say "masks don't work on healthy people" they are not trying to say "a single mask doesn't work on a single person". That is what you seem to hear, but that isn't what they are trying to say. What they say is "If we as a society, spend all our masks on healthy people, it won't work to stop pandemic".

A mask spent on a healthy person is not useless, it's wasteful. If you don't want to contract desease you should stay at home, that is a solution. A mask despite being mildly useful is not a solution. You are still very likely to contract desease wearing a mask, if you do not follow other rules that you tend to ignore.

Kevlar vest can stop bullets, but it is not a complete solution, because bullets is not the thing that kills the most in a war, by far.

Just try to answer this: what makes you safer, wearing a vest, or donating it to a soldier who doesn't have one?

The fact that I hope you are trolling, or that nobody depends on you or listens to you is not an insult.

>If what you said about setting remote workspace for your company is true, it is likely you have actually saved a life. See, it is not that hard to commend a person you are arguing with.

We've been doing it for more than a month, and your comment confirms you are trolling. Now I only hope you truly do not think what you said is true for your own sake, and hope that no person actually depends on you for their sake.

All the best to you, fellow human.

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