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Also interesting about that photo: Five of the 25 have portrait-oriented video feeds. Tbh this may make more sense for this kind of thing (shows more of the person rather than more of the space they're in) but I'm thinking about the hardware—am I correct in inferring that those five are zooming from their mobile? Do high-level UK cabinet ministers not have laptops?

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I'm speculating, but they might find it more convenient to use a separate device for the video chat? Especially if you're using your laptop a lot during the video call, it's quite convenient to have the chat open elsewhere.

Esp considering I have had the zoom app completely crash my laptop multiple times.

Given how cavalier zoom is about privacy and its history on the Mac, the only place I'd be willing to use it is on my phone or ipad where it's boxed in by Apple's restrictions and has undergone app review. Apple had to push a silent OS update to remove zoom's insecure secret web server.

How the heck is Zoom even HIPAA compliant?

Is it though?

https://zoom.us/healthcare

> HIPAA/PIPEDA plans start at $$200 per month per account, which comes with 10 hosts.

A relevant thread from yesterday:

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22735746

Zoom claiming it's compliant has nothing to do with it actually being compliant.

If they have filed the paperwork[0] then they are. (Whether their solution to be compliant is or is not enough would have to be audited.)

Apple's FaceTime is not HIPAA compliant because they haven't filed the paperwork.[1]

(Obviously, there are a lot more steps to it than signing a Business Associate agreement, but I would bet FaceTime is probably a little more secure than Zoom)

[0]:https://www.hipaajournal.com/become-hipaa-compliant/

[1]:https://www.hipaajournal.com/facetime-hipaa-compliant/

And what about GDPR?

Works for them I guess but when screensharing especially for code, mobile phones and tablets don’t work well.

I doubt they code for a living.

Microphone quality is still not a solved problem on laptops, and Windows' sound preferences UI does not make it easy to switch to a Bluetooth headset (that is, if you even have one on you).

I only ever use Zoom on my phone - it frees up my laptop to be used during the call, and I refuse to install anything developed by that company on my laptop.

You can join Zoom meetings on your browser too. It's behind these twelve easy steps:

1. Go to zoom.com 2. Click "Join a meeting" 3. Enter meeting id and click Join 4. Ignore the automatic app download 5. Go back 6. Click "Join a meeting" again 7. Enter meeting id and click Join again 8. Ignore the app download again 9. Click at "If nothing prompts, click here" 10. Click "Join from your browser" 11. Agree to terms of service 12. Enter password and name, click Join

Yes, it actually requires you go back and try again at step 5. What dark pattern?

What? That's crazy to hide such a useful feature!

The meeting host can enable the browser client link without the hassle in their settings. Unfortunately it's disabled by default.

That's.... a thing of beauty. Honestly, it brings a tear to my eye.

If you are in awe of that, take a look at the official article about doing find and replace in MS OneNote:

https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/office/find-and-replace-...

Could they be using iPads? I can’t see why a high level executive or politician couldn’t get away with one.

Maybe they didn't get audio to work on their notebooks?

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