How do you know if you’re living through the death of an empire?
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Infrastructure decays slowly, but costs a lot to fix. It's generally the first thing that gets sacrificed when things get tough.
"Surely that bridge will last another ten years, so let's put off renovating it it till we have to."
"We don't have the money now to fix that bridge with the weak beams. We'll wait till we get some extra cash and then fix it properly."
"Never mind, we can work around that bridge that's collapsed. We'll just use that smaller bridge over there."
> If those values degrade and are not sufficiently replaced/reinforced, this is a sure sign your empire is in decline.
So in your situation, the empire would collapse if slavery is abolished and also the value system that allowed for it not sufficiently replaced.
And if we're talking about the US, the world will continue on with it as a 3rd tier power just as it did outside of Rome. Either the Europeans will get their act together or China will dominate with a capital centered dictatorship as the standard.
― Robert A. Heinlein, Friday
one of the most recent examples - USSR - the low oil prices of the 198x coupled with the peak cold in the 80 years cycle meant that the resulting low agricultural yield couldn't be supplanted by the required massive import of food, so that time the Russian Empire (USSR) cracked. 80 years before that the Russian Empire had revolution of 1905-06, and while that revolution failed it resulted in a lot of deep changes to the country, in particular agrarian reforms (including introducing peasants' private property on agrarian lands) and huge expansion of Russian agriculture into Siberian regions.
So, i think that one can estimate the probability of "How do you know if you’re living through the death of a specific government instance/structure/order." by looking at the basic Maslow layers - food and security. This is for example why China Communist Party is hell bent on delivering growth and prosperity and stomping out hard measure style any threats to stability, be it coronavirus or dissidents.
But instead of this China control, not just internal but also WHO. It not just kill its people which like cultural revolution and big leap forward, it killed outside. It even tried to blame the very country which has the index patient who fly out from wuhan the day before it was shut down. And that is great and ok. We should only talk about the collapse of past empire.
Let us accept even though I am not, what value it brings. Should we still do a few last stand.
Surely, the people on the Eastern front, is highly genetically different, than from those on the western side, which is closer to being European.
I assume it’s because of the threat of nukes, which kept the size of the Russian Federation the way that it is.
If individual states begins to shut down their borders, and alienate citizens from other states, then what is the purpose of the Federal government?
According to the constitution, the Federal role is to provide for the national defense. And to allow for free interstate trade and commerce.
- campaign finance reform
- self dealing
- gun control
- taxation policies
- fiscal control
- immigration policy
- increasing deferral to the Executive branch on war powers
- health care cost inflation
- partial rollback of Glass-Stiegel act
- outsized influence of lobbyists
the underlying theme is willful and actual helplessness.
The dominant political parties increasingly represented corporations and the upper one percent whether it was the Hollywood A-class or gecko like corporations for profit. Why? Corporations have lobby money and it's easier to interact with fewer corporate contacts that tens of millions of dispersed Americans who lack a single contact point -- even though a House or Senate member has precisely that job.
Trump/Bannon saw their opportunity and took it.
Congress has no agency in the here and now. Politicians have succumbed to the outsized problem space increased by inaction in what has become an all too familiar trajectory:
- they try to position themselves as DC outsiders aligned with hardworking Americans and kitchen table issues whether by portraying us as spinless over anxious, over worked victims or heroic proletariat suckers who still manage the good fight
- They talk about what they will do in the always perpetual future
Once the campaign is over the realities of institutional incompetence cast a shadow so large it crushes pragmatic action.
And thus we become more disalusioned with Congress. In frustration and anger a sufficient number of people went Trump.
To use and abuse the Plato analogy, too much cheap symbolism of emotional issues has dominated our conversation about the shadows on the cave wall. We need but turn around and walk the 10 feet out of the cave entrance and do the practical things like clearing up our home camp. Yes, smart doing requires smart thinking -- the two are permanently entangled in the other -- so ideas matter. Dispositioning the shadows matters. But the Federal US government was never intended to be bully pulpit for the Christian right or inveigh on it. That's a problem for a father, mother, son, and daughter. The US government is about a human justice; it's about fighting structural and monied power that violate individual liberty.
Right now our cherished ideals are like the crushed and broken stained glass shards on the ground. So be it. Let's start the work of reassembling them an make anew meaning.
"Every state and society faces serious challenges. The difference lies in whether the underlying structures are healthy enough to effectively respond to those challenges. Successful states and societies are resilient when faced with even serious challenges. Falling empires are not."
"All empires think they’re special, but all empires eventually come to an end. The United States won’t be an exception.
The popular story version of this particular falling empire might focus on a twice-divorced serial philanderer and bullshit artist and make him the villain, rendering his downfall or ultimate triumph the climax of the narrative. But it’s far more likely that the real meat of the issue will be found in a tax code full of sweetheart deals for the ultra-wealthy, the slashed budgets of county public health offices, the lead-contaminated water supplies. And that’s to say nothing of the decades of pointless, self-perpetuating, and almost undiscussed imperial wars that produce no victories but plenty of expenditures in blood and treasure, and a great deal of justified ill will."
I suspect that empires, much like organisms, are born, grow, mature and eventually succumb to senescence. Part of this is developing wealth and then spending more and more of the society's output to defend it from threats, real or imagined. It seems like at some point the defense becomes an end in itself and drains resources from things like keeping up infrastructure and taking care of citizens.
Business entities such as large corporations seem to see a similar life cycle, though defense is not what drains them. I suspect it is more related to layers of management.
I also think the cuts to the county health department are... normally mitigated by an ample federal response.
This will be here for a long time.
First people work hard and barely survive
Second people work hard and have enough
3rd people just work and have enough
4th people barely work and have more than enough
5th Earning things is replaced with entitlements and some have to work hard to make it so.
6th the entitled class grows beyond support then everything caves in.
And everything starts over again.
In short: To find the end, look for the entitlements.
Would UBI be considered the ultimate form of entitlements, or is there something past UBI?
The 'ultmate' entitlements can be found in the 'private' sector, where 'institutions too big to fail' can keep gambling and reap enormous profits, and the moment the odds turn feel entitled to not ask but demand bailouts by the public they have been fleecing all along, where 'entrepreneurs' feel not just entitled but expect adoration when their planet destroying externality dumping schemes 'make a profit' or even just get to suck at the tit of the VC ponzi scheme.
"My personal favorite is to look at the original values that were used to build the empire. If those values degrade and are not sufficiently replaced/reinforced, this is a sure sign your empire is in decline"
Something else struck me the other day..
Imagine a bar chart with the essential services on the left and entertainment on the right. We all know that the work needed to keep society going isn't paid so well. We also know that profit is huge in things no one needs. The new thing I noticed is that it works like that over the entire spectrum. The more we need something the smaller the investments. New hip things (that we've always done without) are flooded with money. Amazon is hip, the postal service is not.
I think it works like this: After a hard reset society rebuilds from scratch. At this point the market is interested in stuff people need. We want that hip new broomstick and we want it now. Eventually the sector stabilizes. Broomsticks continue to be made but the excitement is over. Margins go down and the market moves its attention to the right of the bar chart. Meanwhile the essential industries become more and more efficient but less and less resilient.
You could still call it "the original values of the empire" but I believe this public attention or market focus to be a more granular perspective.
Entitlements could extend the chart beyond producing stuff no one needs. (at least they are still making something even if it is just video games)
Since attention is something that can be controlled it becomes a puzzle that can be solved. We could plant enormous food-forests. They take 80 years to fully mature but I'm sure we can invent some futures market and some subsidies to make it into a truly hip thing.
Rand identified the cause plus the solution and argued for it for 50 years before she died. The cause is epistemology or the branch of Philosophy that studies "How Do You Know...". The status & respect for reason has been under assault by bad philosophers for 200 years now and this is the culmination.
If you really want to go into something like this, a better medium would be to write a book. Alternatively, write a journal article, or a letter to the editor of a journal. Those messages are long enough, and infrequent enough, to support conversations which are more than just shallow repetitions of what has been said before. They're also filtered in ways that, while they no doubt exclude outliers of originality, also exclude dreck. The open internet doesn't have that, so quantity dominates quality.
Source?
Should we all speak communist chinese? I am afraid you all might, just like us forced to now. Good luck. You need it.