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Comment by mikorym | Hacker News Reader

My opinion about this is that many apps and websites don't have a real product offering. FB, Dropbox, Twitter and others are more of a service offering than a product offering and hence everything is rooted around services and tracking services and, finally, just plain old tracking.

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I don't see how is selling a service different then selling a product ? If clients want it => pay for it.

The real point that privacy advocates REFUSE to talk about is that FREE service wins over 99% market share over PAID service. So people does not want to pay for Facebook (greed) and Facebook does not want to make people pay (market share first in Silicon Valley mindset).

Well money for its thousand engineers has to be found ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Now that the actors have collectively chosen the combo free services in exchange for private data, a small minority wants free service in exchange of nothing. How does it work, Freemium, government subsidies ?

So just to give you an example of what would be a product. Spotify is half way between service and product.

What would make it further closer to a product would be (my suggestion):

1. No free version

2. And while you are at it, don't pool views. If you listen only to "Baby" by Bieber and only that once (or many times) in that month, then Bieber et al. gets your full $10. Edit: minus fees.

They still do services, but now they are not "organised around services".

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