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"To provide better results, please disable AdBlocker"

How will that help provide better results?

The website is full of tracking stuff (has both Tag Manager and Analytics) and has Google ads. So I am guessing what they mean is, we will not be able to know everything about you and advertise to you if you don't disable AdBlocker.

Exactly. Which is definitely not needed for a job aggregation site.

This is a great site, and I really like what they are doing and going towards. I just don't like how it's littered with Google trackers, etc.

How much are you willing to pay to remove the ads?

If nothing then perhaps it was needed.

You can have ads without ubiquitous invasive tracking. This is a common false dichotomy used to distract from the issue.

exactly.

Is the ad revenue the same with and without tracking? I have no experience of this, but economically, it seems unlikely that less personalized ads would pay as much as more personalized ads due to likely lower click-through rate?

We do not have Google Ads or other Ads on entrylevel. Our tracking is Google Analytics, Mix Panel, Sentry, and Facebook Pixel. Other tracking software has been disabled since I passed my free tier haha. We only track for analytical reasons to improve UX and for bugs.

It’s significantly less without tracking unless you have other methods of demonstrating your audience is sizable and niche.

Payment definitely is needed, unless you're offering to host it for them.

I hate ads just as much as everyone else, but if that's how they are planning to pay for hosting/time, it is absolutely needed.

You can have ads without the tracking, just like @andrepd mentioned.

You can, with downsides. Uninformed ads have less value. You can also make people pay, and have no ads.

You can do lots of things.

But it is needed. Nobody builds a job board "just because". There is always a monetization angle of some sort.

Thank you for your feedback! We ask for individuals to disable AdBlocker so yes we can generate revenue, but also return better results that are based on your geographic location. As of now, we have 0 ads on the site. Google Ads is not functional on our site and we do not plan on flooding the site with Ads.

It will allow the owner to make money, which means the site will continue to exist.

People deserve to be paid for their effort, and unless you want to pay a monthly subscription to an entry-level job tracker, advertising or collecting emails are really the only two ways to do it in this example.

It's not up to us to validate their idea and "allow the owner to make money" by disabling ad-blockers. This site is just another shitty rent-seeking middleman among middlemen, and hopefully it dies a quick painful death that encourages the owner to make something original.

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You can have ads without the tracking, just like @andrepd mentioned.

The way job boards make money is to have employers pay to post jobs on the board. PPC and Display ads pay very little.

You could charge an employer $200 to post a job. Or you could try to reach hundreds of thousands of pageviews from non-adblock devices to get the same amount in Adsense money.

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