Just check these interviews about Education from this page:

http://www.thebyteshow.com/JosephPFarrell.html

To be precise:

http://www.thebyteshow.com/Audio/JosephPFarrell/JosephPFarre...

http://www.thebyteshow.com/Audio/JosephPFarrell/JosephPFarre...

I think what's described in those interviews is very telling..