Stanford researchers confirm N95 masks can be sterilized in oven
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In a conventional oven, 75 ℃ / 167 ℉ for 30 minutes is sufficient to inactivate SARS-CoV-2. If someone were worried about packages, mail or objects being contaminated, placing them into the oven like this would probably work if allowed to reach that temp internally for that time.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5638397/
Surprisingly, the method that worked best was...
> "Place the test masks in a traditional electric rice cooker using dry heat for 3 minutes (149~164°C, without adding water)."
Apparently dry heat was much better at preserving the structural integrity of the different masks, compared to chemicals or steam.
Should we just be ironing masks?
IMO it looks better than the single glyph. (°C °F vs ℃ ℉)
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Damn..I've been spritzing mine inside and out with 91% OH...time to bake like Snoop Dogg
And you still have at least half of the filtration efficiency. Unsure if that means 90% instead of 95%, or 47.5% instead of 95%, but that's still a gain.
The pressure drop was comparable to the other methods, so you're not going to asphyxiate yourself according to the publication.
And, again, all the caveats about ozone not being an empirically-evaluated sterilization method.
> In summary bleach and microwaves were failures at point of care because the bleach gases (skin and respiratory irritants) remained after multiple strategies were used to remove them, the microwave melted the masks and soaking them first led to reduced filtration. EtO, UVGI, and hydrogen peroxide decontamination were safe and effective in the models tested but it is not known if they would retain filtration, material strength,and airflow integrity with repeated use. EtO, UVGI, and hydrogen peroxide limitations include time from decontamination to reuse and available space and materials to decontaminate in an OR setting. 70C /158F heating in a kitchen-type of oven for 30 min,or hot water vapor from boiling water for 10 min, are additional effective decontamination methods
I'd just leave things in the sun for a bit. Clouds are transparent to most solar UV too, so just a direct path to the sun is needed. Rotate the objects a few times, maybe take 1.5-2 hours or so.
However, for things that are also UV sensitive, like masks, follow the recommendations when the research has been looked over a bit. Use an oven.
Alternatively, would leaving things under the sun have a similar effect and, if so, how long would it take?
Its extremely dangerous, and can cause eye and skin damage with under 60 seconds of exposure, it is absolutely something you do not want to be anywhere around when active.
As for the bleach leaving skin and respiratory irritants, maybe hypochlorous acid (HOCl) might be a good alternative?
The mask deformed, got wet, and I do not believe the mask got hot enough - it was cool, including the metal parts.
Escherichia coli is a rod-shaped bacterium. Each bacterium measures approximately 0.5 μm in width by 2 μm in length. Coronaviruses are large pleomorphic spherical particles with bulbous surface projections.[12] The diameter of the virus particles is around 120 nm.
There are 1000 nm in 1 um.
"4C Air confirmed all the proposed treatments have killed corona viruses."
[1] https://www.infectioncontroltoday.com/environmental-hygiene/...
The E. Coli experiment is for the latter goal. FWIW, E. coli are a pretty standard way for checking sterilization efficacy. They're easy to culture, fairly hardy, and non-pathogenic. Doing a first pass with live SARS-Cov2 would be incredibly foolhardy (what if the sterilization doesn't work?!)
The report also found acceptable (if a bit lower) sterilization from applying steam from boiling water for just 10 minutes, which would improve turnaround rates even further.
Edit: In the vapor stream at ~4 cm from the outlet, I measure 63°C.
My running joke with the "up to 3 days" figures people keep sharing is that you could get infected "up to 3 miles away" by someone sneezing if the winds/temperatures are just right and you're EXTREMELY unlucky.
In the same way, you can find an identifiable skeleton, even after the person is dead.
(edit: that's not right, the half life is shorter with the virus still infectious on a surface for 72 hours or so)
72 hours is the time it gives for the virus still being detectable/viable on those surfaces, which is different than the half life.
They could have people manning the ovens in the cafeteria rotating these things in and out, but wether its fear of liability, "not invented here syndrome", or the idea just sounding crazy, it's not going to happen.
I passed it around to some contacts who work there anyway, but I have no hope.
Edit: from cdc guidelines:
>SARS appears to be transmitted mainly through direct contact with infectious materials (including large respiratory particles), and surgical masks will provide barrier protection against droplets that are considered to be the primary route of SARS transmission. However, surgical masks may not adequately protect against aerosol or airborne particles,
Presumably as coronaviruses SARS and COVID19 are similarly sized, and I don't know that the aerosolization of COVID19 has been confirmed. So at least in a casual setting like stores I imagine masks should reduce the probability of inhaling viral particles.
https://www.lg.com/us/styler-steam-closet
It's relatively effective according to this article
https://www.3m.com/3M/en_US/company-us/all-3m-products/~/3M-...
A quick disinfection protocol with greater certainty seems preferable.
> IMPORTANT NOTICE
> Do not use anything in your home to disinfect contaminated
> equipment. Please do not heat your masks in a home oven!
Heck, pay the restaurant owners rent to use them — now you’ve solved two problems.
Heck, tell the restaurateurs that when we’re done using their ovens we’ll rip them out and install shiny new ones. Problems that can be solved by throwing money at them are good problems to have right now.
Hospitals have ovens anyway, the ones in their cafeteria kitchens if nothing else. But even if that weren't the case, they could just send somebody to a local store and buy one. They could have it purchased, installed and operational by the end of the day.
But I'd still agree with you.
A residential clothes dryer isn't that much cooler than the temperatures they target in this study. Just use a rack or turn off tumble (if you can).
Employees: N95 masks sir
Customer: can I also order one?
People could do that on their stove with a pot of water and a thermometer.
Source: by far the easiest way to fix crystallized honey is to bake it somewhere in the 120F to 140F range for an hour or two. All the Internet guides saying to use warm water have probably never tried to put a half-full bottle of honey in water, fully submerged to get all the crystals, and without destroying the label. In contrast, all common bottle plastics and labels are just fine in 140F dry air.
And the label is nice if you have lots of varieties of honey :)
Many of them have stackable horizontal racks which may make it possible to 6-12 at a time.
edit: s/vertical/horizontal/
> Authors found decontamination using an autoclave, 160C dry heat, 70% isopropyl alcohol, and soap and water (20-min soak) caused significant degradation to filtration efficiency.
I'd think an autoclave/pressure cooker/rice steamer would have a much lower risk of melting plastic fibers in masks since they're physically limited to lower temperatures than a typical oven.
The oven is safer and easier by a wide margin.
In asian area it's not common to have oven but steamer usually available
Users are tested for fit, but that test is based on new masks.
The dryer is a much better alternative.
A steamer on a stove seems like a safer bet.
I'd doubt it's sterilized though. Fungal spores will survive this process. But it'll kill viruses: high heat is often good enough.
Keep in mind that N95 is made from polypropylene, which is an autoclavable plastic.
Sterilization is overkill anyway: N95s aren't sterilized from the factory in the first place.
no, slide 5 says that they suffer at minimum a 3.4% loss in efficiency.
a brand new N95 is still superior.
So, afterwards, you have a sub-par N95 mask that now has increased risk of fungal spores and other hardy pathogens.
https://factcheck.afp.com/novel-coronavirus-health-experts-w...
> Dr. Ho Pak-leung, a microbiologist and director of the Centre for Infection at the University of Hong Kong, described the video in the misleading post as “fake news” in an email to AFP on January 30.
In a mask shortage the question of whether masks can be sterilized and reused should never have been dismissed out of hand.
We have medical professionals working without masks as we speak due to the shortage.
Many of our trusted experts have been feeding us misinformation exacerbating the problem.
> 4C Air confirmed all the proposed treatments have killed corona viruses. Labs have no way to test COVID-19 directly and as an accepted protocol, E. Coli is used for testing. We asked what methods can be used to decontaminate the facial mask for reuse safely and without loss to filtration efficiency. 4C Air confirms using 70 degree C hot air in an oven (typical kitchen-type of oven will do) for 30min, or hot water vapor are additional effective decontamination methods.
Please don't cherry pick here.
Viruses come in many shapes and forms. One of the major features of viruses is whether they have a viral envelope (derived from the host plasma membrane lipid bilayer) or a protein capsid shell.
The structure of capsids can make them more or less hearty.
Luckily for us, Covid-19 and coronaviruses in general have viral envelopes. These are easy to disrupt with soap and susceptible to the environment.
Polio, on the other hand, was damned near impossible to be rid of. Capsids can be resilient.
Other major features are the nucleic acid family (RNA or DNA), encoding (single or doubly stranded, multiple senses), and these impact mutation rate and what host or viral machinery is used. RNA doesn't survive as long as DNA, but that doesn't matter if the virus is in a good environment.
Why is this more than a guesstimate? It strikes me as odd to test for virus disinfection by using a bacteria, but I am a complete noob in this field.
Consider your qualifications, ('I am a complete noob in this field.') compared to theirs.
Amy Price, DPhil (Oxon) ... earned her Doctorate in Evidence Based Health Care at The University ofOxford.
Larry Chu, MD, MS (Epidemiology) ....
If anyone understands the science, and the limitations of their study, it is themselves and they caveated their conclusions carefully.
Is it peer reviewed? No. But it is the best science we have at the moment.
A noob in the field isn't going to find a hole in two minutes that two serious professionals haven't thought about.
I thought we (as a computer science-centric population) valued learning over credentials?
I didn't mean to come off as agressively taking a stance, which is /why/ I wrote that I don't know anything about this topic.
But it is also very safe to say that serious scientists don't put forth studies that someone completely uncredentialled can poke a hole in with two minutes of thought.
I might have misunderstood the wording:
"4C Air confirmed all the proposed treatments have killed corona viruses. Labs have no way to test COVID-19 directly and as an accepted protocol, E. Coli is used for testing."
I understood this as: There has been no testing using corona viruses (because there's no way to do so currently?), but instead they're benchmarking with E. coli.(because this has some sort of similar attributes)
But what it's saying is(?): Testing has been done on E.coli AND corona viruses, but there's no standardized protocol for corona viruses, which is why they're focusing on the E.coli aspect.
Please do not assume malintent, even though I know these are stressful times, and we'd do well to let important information surface to the general population, I think a part of that is to understand the limitations of that information as well.