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The feeling of wetness is something that you get used to once you realize that your butt clean.

On the flip side, most people who use toilet paper think their butts will get completely clean. That is actually not the case.

But either is not a big deal because the skin in that hind area is quite resilient.

To the surprise of many people, the game-changer in bathroom hygiene is properly washing hands after using the toilet. People in developing countries lack access to clean water and soap. Nobody really misses toilet paper.

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> The feeling of wetness is something that you get used to once you realize that your butt clean.

I'm not talking about wetness. I'm talking about feces. As in sitting there getting blasted with a sprayer for well over a minute trying to hit all the angles and then seeing brown on the paper being used to dry up. Just spraying water does not work on its own. If you wipe normally first, then a bidet afterward will probably get you cleaner. But if you don't wipe first then there's no guarantee that it will do better on its own than wiping would have.

Even just a few seconds running normal pressure bidet is extremely effective. Let it run for 10 seconds, use hot water, use a rotating sprayer (or just wiggle around a bit) and there is absolutely nothing left. Don't forget your skin doesn't want poo on it and gravity is also actively working against anything sticking.

> Let it run for 10 seconds, use hot water, use a rotating sprayer (or just wiggle around a bit) and there is absolutely nothing left.

Personal experience does not agree with you. But I'm glad that it works well for someone.

Honestly, maybe you aren't getting enough fiber. I take a psyllium husk pill a few times a week. If I take one daily I could literally get away with zero wipes some days if I wanted...

hair in the butt area also has a big impact

This can be a sign of a health problem. Seriously, you should mention it to your doctor.

i think this is a you problem. after moving to japan, i've been using bidet exclusively and it's much much cleaner.

An effective bum gun sprays water with a lot of force. There's a certain way to aim it (to be specific, first near your anus and then circle outwards) that completely removes all feces in just a few seconds.

I have tested the cleanliness with paper, but after 6 years now I never need any paper. Unless your ass is really hairy there won't be as much residual wetness as you'd expect and air drying for a moment is enough.

I'm with you. A bidet alone doesn't get peanut butter out of dog fur, if you know what I mean.

Method 1: You hold the spray/jet in one hand, use the other hand to gently wash. Then wash your hands (twice) with soap and water.

Method 2: If there's a jet/bidet fixed on the toilet that shoots a stream of water, you still need one had to gently wash the butt. Then wash your hands (twice) with soap and water.

There's only one issue with this -- public toilets/hotels where you don't want to touch the spray gun. Need Toilet Paper there.

That's how we all are taught to do in south-east asia atleast. *I feel unclean if I'm using toilet paper alone! Billions of people do it this way!

Best way to use a bidet is with soap, your hands, and a towel.

I've had a bidet in my bathrooms since I was born (actually I believe we have bidets since at least my father was born in 1951) and:

1. I can not imagine my life without it 2. In my very humble opinion the only effective use of bidet, as parent states, is seated towards the tap using hands, soap, and mildly warm water. After that, washing hands at the bathroom sink

> On the flip side, most people who use toilet paper think their butts will get completely clean. That is actually not the case.

Do they?

> On the flip side, most people who use toilet paper think their butts will get completely clean. That is actually not the case.

yeah yeah we are all unhygienic savages, but isn't this what the two showers a day are for?

Only two? That IS savage.

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