Would be good to have a cross platform version of this. I wonder how difficult it would be?
I looked at the site, this sounds interesting. Just interested in hearing it from someone who uses it
I gave it a try a few times but it never clicked. I felt constrained by the language (Lisp, Smalltalk and Forth ruined me for life) and the runtime is nothing to write home about. For most people I guess it doesn't matter. My friend doesn't even know what reference counting is and wants something simple to get stuff done.
Lazarus aside, it seems FOSS isn't going to give us the kind of RAD tools that one might hope for -- thinks more like Hypercard and related. Such efforts require the kind of resources (long periods of time and good funding, to start) that loose networks of casual contributors are never going to be able to provide. And in today's world, where next-quarter reporting and shareholder primacy dominate enterprise decisions, it's even rare to get something truly immersive and new from commercial entities (Apple is the biggest corp in the world. Do they have something like their ATG group from the 90s? If so, what the hell are they working on?)
> Lisp, Smalltalk and Forth ruined me for life)
Same here, but there's a (partial) reason these aren't really viable in today's computing culture. The first is that they really are for whole computing systems that don't necessarily make a distinction between user and programmer. The culture we have today is the opposite of this: users are consumers, first and foremost. Computing systems are thus mechanisms that run isolated "applications" whose ability to be modified by regular people is severely limited compared to what we know (and have known for 4 decades) is possible.
With Cygwin:
setup-x86_64.exe --packages gambas3,xinit,xwin-xdg-menu
Install from Internet, click Next
Root Directory C:\cygwin64 , click Next
Select Local Package Directory C:\Users\USERNAME\Downloads - where setup files are downloaded before installing, click Next
Select Internet Connection / Direct Connection, click Next
Choose a Download Site - I did select http://ftp-stud.hs-esserlingen.de but some other could also work
Select Packages - All required is selected, click Next
Wait while downloading and installing
Checkmark: [X] Create icon on Desktop [X] Add icon to Start Menu
Click Finished
Start Gambas this way:
Start / All Programs / Cygwin-X / XWin-Server
From hidden taskbar right corner icons select icon that has black C and in middle of it light green X. From there click Programming / Gambas3.
Curious to know the experience on the Gambas apps produced in Windows. I guess they would also need Cygwin?
I also think that on Windows Cygwin is required.
Following is from bottom of page http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/doc/faq?nh&l=en#t12
"Will you port Gambas to Windows™ ?
I won't, but I will help any people trying to do that.
Gambas already runs under Cygwin. Note that there is a lot of things to port, if you want to do a native port: process management, gb.qt4 component, and so on... This is a huge job. The most promising compiler target would be Mingw-w64, which also allows cross compilation on a unix-like system."
If you use Gambas for making web apps, then you could use webbrowser to access those apps. Gambas IDE has wizard for web app, and some components that can be dragged to form. From some forum discussions I have read that debugging those web apps is easier then debugging php apps.