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If I could give one feedback to system76, or even better, to all laptop manufacturers: please start making 15 inch laptops without numpad. I was considering buying a system76 in the past and this was what prevented me to buy one.

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I go the other way. I wish all laptop manufacturers would stop making 15in laptops with numpads. The way the keyboard is offset makes it terrible in my opinion. Of course I don't do a lot of stuff that requires me to make use of a numpad either.

That is exactly the same thing the parent post said...

You're reading too quickly! :)

GGP wants numpads, GP wants no numpads.

Edit: Nope, I'm the one reading too quickly, oops.

Projection! GGP doesn't want numpads either. Based on phrasing, they might be okay with some laptops offering it, where as GP wants them eliminated.

GGP: "start making 15 inch laptops without numpad"

GP: "stop making 15in laptops with numpads"

He said he don't want no laptop that isn't without an absence of numpads.

I definitley read that wrong. Whoops! My apologies! For some reason I thought he said Stop instead of Start.

Agree completely. I completely understand, and even appreciate, the utility of a numpad, but I can't deal with the offset keyboard that comes as a result.

Even on desktops, numpads bother me.

alright theres only 1 solution to this; please allow the keyboard to be hotswapped.

Even without a numpad the keyboard is already irritatingly offset. There's just more stuff to the right of the alphas.

A 15" laptop with no numpad and the alphas (not the whole keyboard) centred would be ideal.

>I go the other way.

The comment you replied to is in agreement with you re numpads.

I have switched to a keyboard without a numeric keypad for my desktop machine, really don't need one for a laptop.

I hope they keep them since I will only ever buy 15" laptops with a number pad. Typing in IP addresses, something I do many times daily in my line of work, is much quicker on a numpad than on the horizontal row of number keys.

Are you looking forward to the future where having a number pad won't help you enter ipv6 addresses? Well, at least it'll make you enter the address slower than if you use the "normal" number row + letters instead of numpad + letters.

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