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I don't know what is up with mozilla/firefox. I'm still using firefox but not because I like it, only because the alternatives are worse. I signed up for a firefox account almost right after they were announced. At the time and multiple times since I've unsubscribed from "all" their emails because I'm not interested in them. They just either invent a new list and auto-subscribe me to it or they just ignore my preferences and spam me anyway. Today I got an email from mozilla telling me to "Get the 'F' out." So I did, I reset my password, logged into their service, unsubscribed (again!!) from all their lists, and then deleted my account. Yes, I was forced to reset my password and log in just to unsubscribe.

Not mentioned in the changelog for this release is that in the URL bar, when I start typing and the suggestion list drops down, the first result is now highlighted in an eye-destroying bright green (even in dark mode, which I'm using).

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I've also signed up for a Firefox sync account ever since it was launched, and the only emails I get are the security notifications about new sign-ins.

The Firefox Account has no communication options and does not send promotional emails: https://accounts.firefox.com/settings

Not sure what lists you're subscribed to, but they aren't part of this account. What mailing lists have you subscribed to or what service are you talking about?

They absolutely do send "promotional" emails and in the communication preferences there was a huge list of different newsletters (which always seems to change). I'm not the only one getting this spam email:

https://old.reddit.com/r/firefox/comments/fggla9/get_the_f_o...

From that site: https://i.imgur.com/tHTSKXL.png

Check the bottom. When you clickthrough the Email preferences link, you're presented with a list of several email lists you can subscribe/unsubscribe from.

Edit: I was subscribed to a couple lists I never directly opted-in to receive, though I never received any emails from those lists.

Ah, the problem is that I don't have that option — must be a regional thing:

https://imgur.com/a/BR1ILDe

Just happened to catch this, thanks for the response. That's interesting that it's possibly regional, and I'm unsure why. They weren't sales emails, it was just newsletters about various Mozilla bits.

I've been using Firefox since they announced their major overhaul whenever that was, and got a Firefox account to sync with when that became available -- I don't remember getting any email from them at all.

Same for me

Maybe the are being sorted into your spam folder?

I used to be a fan of FF until chrome. I understand it's bad - but how about chromium?

Btw, I'm not against looking at FF again, but looking at this changelog and recent product direction, they honestly feel lost.

How is chromium better than chrome? It's the same program, minus some blobs.

Some users may not like the blobs.

I mean, sure, but chromium is still happy to spy on you, integrate with Google services, and contributes to the Blink monoculture. I'm just surprised that there are people who would object to Chrome on principle and not to chromium.

Mozilla is currently in a state of disarray. Diving revenues, layoffs, etc. Don’t expect anything major from them until the number of users start growing again.

They deliver a new version every month, why do they feel lost and what sort of changes do you expect?

Forcing a login to unsubscribe from a marketing email is a serious dark pattern and a quick way to get me to flag that email as spam.

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