Turning Water into Watts
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A typical nuclear 3rd generation nuclear reactor outputs ~900MW-1GW.
Assuming an impossible 100% charge (ratio between rated and actual generated power), that's still 10000x (!) less power than one nuclear reactor. Put differently, you'd need 10000 of these stations to generate the same amount of electricity as _one_ nuclear reactor.
Then one needs to consider how long that plant can deliver energy. They don't give concrete numbers for that technology, but again taking nuclear again as an example, reactors are designed to run for a a minimum of 40 years (some reactors are now certified for 80 years in the US). Solar and wind are ~20 years.
All in all, love the tech, but the laws of physics are pretty harsh.
Also, nuclear reactors are deployed (Taishan 1 & 2, Hinkley Point, Flamanville...).
It is true, however, that nuclear has a glass ceiling. IMHO for the wrong reasons.
nuclear reactors are mainframes. gas plants are ibm/hp/sun. on-shore and off-shore wind are windows and linux on intel. solar is cell phones.
we never got rid of mainframes. they are still built and sold today. but no amount of arguing about their technical superiority in the 80s would have put you on the right side of that bet.
This is unfortunately not true. Taking the whole Europe, either the wind blows everywhere, or it doesn't [1].
1. https://www.vive-le-nucleaire-heureux.com/images/Textes-blog...
Make the plants smaller, cheaper, modular, and designed for easier maintenance and disposal.
1. 60% is too high for current turbines; 45% is about what recently installed turbines do. 2. Only old (and outmoded) turbines are anything like 25%. 3. The newest 12MW turbines should achieve 55-60%, as Hywind did for the (windy) winter months. Since future deployments are the topic here, that's the relevant number. Call it 55%, and say I was exaggerating by 10%.
I'm glad that ~10GW of nuclear is coming online, albeit at high LCOE. We don't know how to accelerate deployment. We do know how to accelerate the wind deployment that is already at higher volume. The small-modern nuclear camp is hoping to reach 10GW a year a decade from now at higher-than-wind LCOE. And I hope they succeed! But that is not a reason to talk down the wind and solar-plus storage wave happening right now.
Nuclear electricity is good. I wish we had a lot more of it. Nuclear advocates spend way too much time bashing variable renewables, including with trivially-Googleable misinformation such as your "25%", and not enough tackling the horrible political economy of nuclear. Safe micro-nuclear plants are an excellent start on the "economy" side of "political economy." Now y'all need to build a political coalition—and pro-variable-renewable peeps such as myself must be part of your core coalition if you are going to get anywhere. So start treating us as allies.
The 100kW station was a proof of concept. Like, obviously 5MW is still a long was from 1GW, but it does change the math from 10,000x to 200x, which feels a bit more reasonable.
See loads for wind and solar.
Taking France as an example, the total installed capacity is 400GW, but the actual power consumption is between 60GW and 110GW.
So you need some form of mutualization, unfortunately, in order not to provision 400GW but only use 100GW.
If you don't remember the 2003 blackout, perhaps failure modes aren't forefront in your mind, but they merit consideration. Designing for 2050 while assuming the world looks like 1950 is a bad idea.
Centralized doesn't mean monolithic. Centralized under one entity, but distributed in nature.
France has 58 nuclear reactors (one of the greatest and fastest decarbonisation in history [1]). They are "centralized" in the sense that they are operated by a single entity, but effectively distributed. And indeed they are not all running at the same time (reloading fuel, maintenance) etc...
Furthermore, it should be noted that new sources of energy usually start out as being small and expensive and inefficient. After some time and investment the more promising ones can prove to be plentiful and efficient.
Solar and wind were once considered to be esoteric and expensive. Now they are both vastly cheaper than nuclear and even somewhat cheaper than fossil fuel alternatives.
Is this the real truth as to why nuclear hasn't caught on?
This is debatable[1]. I'm not saying you're wrong, but this isn't settled science and there are some interesting experiments planned to help us better understand whether or not there is radiation hormesis. Given that we and all of our ancestors have lived with some level of radon exposure, it could be an adaptive trait that has been selected for.
Hopefully he lives in a lead bunker because the earth telluric a background radiation ranges from 1mSv/year to 35 mSv/year.
I hope he doesn't take the plane, too.
And so on...
On the other hand, this guy's[1] manufactured a micro-hydro 2km drop generator capable of producing 5-12kWh per day for ~$50 in parts (turbine 3D printed). That's of course limited to drop power (meaning you have a high body of water and a low body of water and generate power, like a dam, by capturing energy from passing the falling water between them through a turbine) but for relatively level bodies of running water (read: creeks, streams, etc) a small, non-destructive weir dam can capture 100kWh per day from a single diverted turbine if conditions are good.[2]
Of course, conditions aren't always, and not everywhere has access to any immediate water supply from which to generate power, but it seems to me that for those places that do, capturing their own power via micro-hydro frees up other generated power for the folks that don't -- but that might be a naive view.
[1] - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1KyL1-0A0Gw&t=2s
[2] - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=61lZn1sUkzE&list=PLtTypVpmDd...
Hydo is very cool, and very green.
Some things to remember, however:
- need to drown whole valleys (very high impact on local wildlife)
- energy density is not that good (i don't have the numbers but the volumes of water moved are huge, hence dams)
- very rapid piloting and low maintenance, so nice to absorb spikes
Well, maybe. I think this depends on what you mean by "green". If you mean low on CO2 emissions, then sure, but we need to consider habitat loss, methane emissions from decomposition, and the possibility of triggering earthquakes. Hydro is also quite expensive to build, and often requires seizing land through processes like Eminent Domain (in the US).
For most people, that's not a real concern. If you can capture enough solar power during the day to offset your energy bill to zero or near zero, that's good enough, but my concerns are a little more esoteric. That said, for either method, density hasn't really played a factor beyond local storage into battery banks - which is normal enough, but a very different concern.
That is not to say that all dams do this, but that consideration is necessary and may require modifying or rejecting certain proposals.
"There is enough wind in the world to supply the entire world’s energy needs. Solar supply exceeds even that by many times and is by far the largest renewable resource. In reality, wind is a second-order effect of solar energy anyway — the sun differentially heats the oceans, atmosphere, and land, and these thermal differences create the wind. This wind, in turn, makes waves; while there is, in fact, a lot of energy in the waves of the deep ocean, there is very little nearer to shore. Even if we captured all of the waves hitting every coastline on the planet, that’s not enough to meet humanity’s demand for energy. The ocean is a fragile ecosystem and capturing large portions of wave energy would negatively affect the oxygenation of the oceans, among other effects."
Given the challenges with putting machines in water, it seems futile to pursue this method of energy generation when going right to the source (solar) is also an option.
And how efficient is an ocean at converting solar energy into mechanical energy? Sure, the waves look big, but there's a lot of friction there eating up the sun's energy.
Also, they advertise the maximum power output, not the actual power output (wind as a ~20% actual power output for instance).