I would also say Jack Dorsey has been pretty fair about the platform. I don't think the left feel like Twitter is exceptionally more open to them.
And I'm guessing they mean the idea of balance being "all ideas are equal regardless of merit" is the flawed paradigm.
There's lots of "scientific" claims that are dictated by dogma or other motivations. Various aspects of nutrition science, psychology, economics, and sociology are either made up or based on low quality evidence, yet people continue to believe them. Humans, including scientists and academics, are imperfect, despite how this is the "modern age".
> And I'm guessing they mean the idea of balance being "all ideas are equal regardless of merit" is the flawed paradigm.
Which I would consider a straw man. I don't believe anyone is saying that all ideas are equal regardless of merit. What people are asking for is a wider Overton window. If people were suggesting that all ideas are equal, then they'd have to accede that the ideas of racists, child molestors, and serial killers are perfectly valid and should be treated the same as other ideas, which I don't think is a very common point of view, at least when a person is tested on it.
Should all grocery stores in the country be allowed to do this?
If so, how do I eat?
They could just look at the credit card number, and observe that 7305 matches a blacklist.
They could use facial recognition in the checkout to check against a database and deny you service that way.
And so on, and so forth. There is no need to be hated by ordinary folks, just that the upper management/media doesn't like you.
What is the solution to this? Never adopting any objectionable views?
I seem to only hear concerns about balance when it has to do with a perceived bias against the right.
As well? I don't complain about them at all. Pointing out that it exists when people deny it is not complaining.
>I seem to only hear concerns about balance when it has to do with a perceived bias against the right.
Well I see two obvious differences that could cause that. The first simply being size. Facebook, google, twitter, reddit, etc are all, as organizations, far-left. And they all use their platforms to silence things they disapprove of, and push their politics. Whatever sites do the same from a far-right perspective are tiny. So, obviously there would be far more complaining from the far larger group of people who use the biggest sites on the web.
Second, all the supposed "far right" websites I see mentioned don't appear to be far right at all, and don't appear to do much or any moderating. They are "far right" because people with left wing views choose not to participate, not because they get banned. There's a big difference between being removed from a platform for having an unapproved view, vs being allowed to post your unapproved view and then people tell you it is wrong.
Also, I remember when Twitter was getting really big one of their prominent founders (May have been jack but I can’t remember) did an interview in which they positioned themselves that social media platforms should use “constitutional logic” (for those not in the states, that’s the USA constitution) when regulating speech in their platform l, which, for better or worse, depending on context and things, “kill all white men” would pass the fee speech test.
Interestingly enough I actually can’t find anything that supports the example you’re referring to here. On the other hand I’ve seen tons and tons of sexist, misogynistic, white supremacist tweets that are super prominent on the platform.
"When You're Accustomed to Privilege, Equality Feels Like Oppression"
The Republicans that were strongly grounded in either policy positions and/or truth have all been vilified (Comey, Mueller, Amash, Flake, McCain, G Conway, Bush, Romney, etc). Even guys like Bolton, who holds extreme conservative opinions on how to run government, cannot succeed in the party because he doesn't toe the line on fealty to Trump / 'flat-earth'.
EDIT: Actually no, I think I would dial back the "temporary aberration" bit as being too glibly optimistic. Because things seem to trend toward entropy, and bringing back a structure is a lot harder than letting a structure go to shit. i.e. what I said at the outset still remains true even after Trump, namely, "nothing is actually what it claims to be anymore."
See: Voat, Gab and so forth.
https://thehill.com/policy/technology/402495-twitter-ceo-jac...
> Twitter CEO Jack Dorsey: I 'fully admit' our bias is 'more left-leaning'
Re: 'so many examples of people getting banned for "wrong think"'- have your sources been confirmed/provided confirmation by Twitter that's that what it was - and
Moderation (parenting) is a very important and effort full work that is required to prevent a wild west of society. A wild west of society is more costly and leads to far more suffering than a managed home; if you want to raise children that are racist within your own home, or who where you find it acceptable for them threaten to kill others, you're allowed to - however forcing ALL platforms to allow all behaviour is insanity, and so Twitter needs to be allowed to have the rules they want to allow - and people can "vote" by using that service or not, and then other platforms can have their own rules - and that government as a whole will have to decide what those bounds are; perhaps should government provide a free speech platform like exist public parks as an option that everyone has available to them.
It should be neutral and non-political, supportive of all view points.
"But the real question behind the question is, are we doing something according to political ideology or viewpoints? And we are not. Period," he added.
Dorsey went on to insist that his company only polices behavior on the platform, not content.
Is having a personal political opinion only illegal if it is left-leaning?
Does a “ministry of truth” really sound like a good idea?
Edit: well apparently very few people ACTUALLY READ the much hyped Mueller report.
I know personally a large number of people banned for expressing pretty mainstream right-leaning beliefs on the platform.
I also know people who have declared that we should kill Trump's children who my report on that went nowhere.
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/10/01/opinion/trump-civil-war.h...
I think everyone reading this honestly knows there was a serious chance that a liberal employee at Twitter would do that as a political statement. (I would have disagreed with that action.)
There is, obviously, no chance that Obama's Twitter would be banned.
This is clearly "out of balance".
I don't think Republicans having a stake in Twitter would improve this situation, though.
Also in this specific example, the ban did not happen.
(Just answering the question.)
Also: Trump isn't banned on Twitter.
I don't believe so, no. I think "who said it" (Trump or Obama) also determines who would get banned. (Currently I think Trump would get banned for something Obama wouldn't get banned for.)
This is the balance that I referred to.
You are 100% correct that my comment did not show any bias at Twitter, as I referred to something that did not occur.
Instead I appealed to the reader's intuition about a counterfactual, showing that the reader already knows and has internalized this balance at the moment, by appealing to the reader's intuition at how surprised the reader would be: not at all surprised to read "Twitter has banned Donald Trump" - though this is a counterfactual - and on reading that headline would know that a liberal employee would have done it.
Do you consider the hypothetical headline I just quoted highly improbable? (I don't.)
Not saying this status quo is good or bad - I was just answering the question.
EDIT:
So I'm walking with someone, and he said that he couldn't see it happening. The reasons that he gave were that it would be very bad for business because a lot of Republicans also use Twitter and that since it is the president of the United States, he could argue that this is a public function. So would be limiting his freedom of speech in a sense.
So I guess I'm wrong and it would surprise many people.
https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/thr-esq/spike-lees-defense...
He tweeted the home address of a person who happened to share the same last name as an unpopular person in the news, inviting people to attack this person, causing this person to have to move for his own protection. He was never banned from Twitter for this. Disgusting.