Terminal V2 – Build, deploy, and host websites and apps on IPFS
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If you aren't one of the founders, you're blowing their chances to be on HN when they are actually ready to launch.
Example :
"Terminal - the easiest way to build, deploy, and host websites & apps on IPFS."
Change to -
"Terminal - the easiest way to build, deploy, and host websites & apps on IPFS(InterPlanetary File System.)"
What the heck is "interplanetary file system"?
We deal in an absolute maelstrom of acronyms. Being explicit when using them for the first time in a document is part of the social contract.
The customer does not care about the tech that much, they care about the value. The value is censorship-resistant and decentralized websites.
There's services like INFURA [0] and Pinata [1] that will pin content for free. It's as simple as using ipfs-deploy [2] to publish the build directory to one of those IPFS pinning services.
You post a bounty in the Etherium world that you want some storage, some compute, a name, an address, etc. and provide some gas so that the network can verify the contracts have actually been fulfilled, and then poof, your site is running somewhere.
Or the simpler case which this is trying to tackle, you want to host a site on IPFS but you don't want to buy an always-on node. Choosing a single provider would be "centralizing" in their eyes so you post a contract for people to seed your site on IPFS and get paid for doing so.
Seems like a cool idea.
The notion that the concept of money itself is dirty is an antiquated one. If you're not trading money you're trading time or limiting your scope. No approach is inherently worst than the others, but since the money way is new to decentralized networks that's where the innovation will naturally tend to happen.
But if you really don't like money in your decentralized networks I hear the GUN[1] ecosystem is pretty active. In-between solutions like Mastodon[2] are also blooming. And if you follow Ethereum's "leader" Vitalik Buterin on Twitter, you'll see he himself is very supportive of alternative approaches that don't involve cryptocurrency[3].
[1]: https://github.com/amark/gun
[3]: https://twitter.com/VitalikButerin/status/121797359890150604..., https://twitter.com/vitalikbuterin/status/120734452423568998...
> with the overarching goal of helping make Web 3 and a ‘decentralized internet’ a reality. Our initial focus (Terminal V1) was on tools and products related to Ethereum smart contracts and dapps, as that’s what we had previous experience with. But after releasing a few tools and products for Ethereum dapps last year, we started to ask ourselves a deeper question - what even is a dapp?
Another aspect is that I really like the fact that I don't have any responsibilities once it's launched. No servers to take care of or feedback to consider. It's truly decentralized.
that sounds awesome actually. But then they should label it as such and (like IOTA) go to places like Volkswagen and CISCO and peddle this stuff as "the future" and make fraudulent claims on twitter that these big companies have "already started" building their systems on that nonsense.
We always need convenient monikers for concepts and while “dapp” isn’t the most elegant, it is no worse than “cloud”.
The fact that people are putting their creative energies into decentralised technology (which is very much swimming against the current and involves solving many very difficult problems) is to be applauded.
As for this specific project ...
Before I'll applaud a project that references ETH and talks about "web3" (tHe fUtuRe oF tHE wEb) they should produce something that isn't a scam. There are literally thousands of them: https://cryptoscamdb.org/scams/ (filter for ETHEREUM).
ETH has shown during the infamous fork that you can't build anything worthwhile based on these systems and their past behavior clearly indicates they took money from people without knowing what they're doing. Fake it till you make it at its finest.
All these things are broken not because the tech is flawed but the assumptions that in case something goes wrong the system can self-correct without human intervention. In the smart-contract world "a bug" literally means either total failure of the project (and bankruptcy of the company backing it).
Another problem is that the community is so ignorant that they call anyone who criticizes them as shills the same way people in my camp do. They are the anti-vaxxers and flat-earthers of Tech! -> at least until they can proof (not on paper but with real life projects) that this isn't the case.
But I find the concept of dapps fascinating. I could even make a prediction that early dapps might eventually become the longest continuously "running" programs in the world. The VM is simple enough to maintain and port, and there is an incentive to do so. These "smart contracts" might still be executable centuries later.
what do they do? Can you point to some successful use-cases today (other than some kittens) where this might apply?
> These "smart contracts" might still be executable centuries later.
chances are that there is no such thing as the Internet a few centuries later in the same way the Telegraph is pretty much dead today!
Nitpicking but ain't collectible card games with proof-of-ownership a use case though? In the Magic The Gathering world (for real physical cards) ensuring that thought-after cards are the real thing is an issue. There are brick and mortars grading companies grading the cards. Then you have to trust the seller you're not getting a swapped-in chinese fake.
But another use case I've seen used: fully decentralized messaging, either "pseudonymous" (say tied to a BTC address: there's been a working demo showing on to do this on BTC's lightning network) or fully anonymous messages, using ZK cryptography.
In this case you don't know who send a message to whom. You don't even know if it's a message or an amount transferred.
And if the cryptographic primitives behind that are broken, we would pretty soon know (price would crash).
To me decentralized messaging, fully anonymous using zero-knowledge cryptography primitives, is quite a use case compared to the "we-need-your-phone-number-but-trust-us-our-protocol-and-app-ain't-backdoored-and-we're-not-collecting-any-data" messaging solutions that are out at the moment.
But I agree it's a world obviously full of scam. Still: a blockchain is basically a computer: a very slow and bloated one. But it's also an incredibly correct and very hard to hack computer.
I think there are valid use cases for a fully decentralized computer running advanced cryptographic primitives like zero-knowledge cryptography. To me fully anonymous decentralized messaging is one (and a badly needed one at that). There are probably others.
They are creating a p2p network for live video broadcasting infrastructure, essentially a competitor to "AWS Elastic Transcoder" or the GCP equivalent. The thought is that through an automated decentralized auction for transcoding capacity, customers will always get a better price than centralized cloud computing providers. It would be interesting to see this concept applied to general compute capacity as well. I think I read about something like that elsewhere.
This is a tool to publish websites on IPFS. It will integrate optional web3 (Ethereum) support in the future. Ethereum is not a requirement to use this tool.
Because anything I come across in that domain, I can smell the stink from miles away!
[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Web_2.0
From the same article: "Whether Web 2.0 is substantially different from prior Web technologies has been challenged by World Wide Web inventor Tim Berners-Lee, who describes the term as jargon. His original vision of the Web was "a collaborative medium, a place where we [could] all meet and read and write." On the other hand, the term Semantic Web (sometimes referred to as Web 3.0) was coined by Berners-Lee to refer to a web of content where the meaning can be processed by machines."
On the other hand, the term Semantic Web (sometimes referred to as Web 3.0) was coined by Berners-Lee to refer to a web of content where the meaning can be processed by machines.
A sibling comment claims that it’s Web3, not Web 3.0 (as if it’s meaningfully different), but “Web 3.0” has definitely been used a lot by dapp advocates; evidence abound. Maybe they have since decided that “Web 3.0” is a tad too ridiculous and is now rallying under the “Web3” banner instead. I wouldn’t know.
edit: sure it's from a different domain, but come on
I'm not normally one to criticise names but this one is hugely counter-intuitive.
[0] https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/dapper/pghmmgdinmf...