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> Juniors just thrash around from one design pattern to the next

I contend that one of the ways a junior developer becomes a senior developer is learning about what works and what doesn't that comes from thrashing about in a codebase. They're being paid less than the senior folks so don't worry about them thrashing about (and pair with them using an open and inquisitive mindset to help them think through the consequences of their changes).

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You're right, and my comment probably sounded way more dismissive of juniors than I intended it to.

That's the problem -- the seniors should mentor them such that they don't have to thrash around. Unfortunately that type of skill is on the opposite end of the spectrum as wrangling computers.

Code reviews can help with that. If your experts are so lacking in people skills, you can establish ground rules for the reviews. This is actually a thing in some places.

Yes it can really help if structured right

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