Brandless has shut down
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"Brandless.com" was never what it told you it was... it was a brand with a logo that told you it wasn't, and it stocked mediocre products. Buying from them was supposed to "feel" like "anti-consumerism", and they told people they didn't invest in marketing so they could give customers better deals. Unfortunately, Brandless actually wasn't a radical rethinking of how we market organic kale to the 27 year old tech set.
Unfortunately, finding these kinds of products is hard, and i don't quite understand why.
About the closest I have found to this ethos in a mass-market kind of way is Muji, but only some of their consumer goods are actually solid and worth purchasing. Anything they sell that is made of plastic is almost certainly not.
The next nearest thing to this seems to be certain classes of Etsy stores that take pride in how well they manufacture their products, but unfortunately this approach isn't replicable to any number of things.
A lot of in-house brands are just white labeled versions of a branded product. The rub is that not all are high-quality brands like Costco's
If I want good white-label vodka I go to Costco.
Good white-label monitor arms apparently come from AmazonBasics.
Good white-label socks come from a third place.
Even worse than the fact that these different classes of products are in different places is that even items in the same class from the same place are completely different quality. Costco's vodka might be fine, their whiskey might be awful. Monitor arms from amazonbasics are fine but their mic arms are garbage.
There's no manufacturer of consistently very high quality consumer goods. There's not even a manufacturer I can point to and say "everything they make, even in their narrow field, is fantastic".
And that sucks.
There might be an opening for someone to do that again. There's a cost to going to 17 places for 17 things. Even if you're online shopping and getting free delivery on everything, there's still a cost in terms of time and aggravation. It might be worth something if some business solved that.
Unfortunately, I don't see anybody who would do so. Amazon would have to control quality of everything they sell (or start a premium brand that was actually premium). Sears has been irrelevant for a couple of decades, and soon will be history. Costco seems to me to have the best chance of pulling this off - their quality is reasonable-to-good on most things we've tried there, but there's a lot we haven't tried. Still, they seem to have the best handle on consistent quality out of any of the current contenders.
There was an expose a few years ago on olive oil. Kirkland brand olive oil was one of the only brands to actually be pure olive oil. And that was comparing it to many Italian "high end" brands.
Also in Modernist Bread, it's noted that the baguette scoring at the Seattle Costco was better than the scoring at many Parisian bakeries.
I'll reckon a guess: most companies aspire to differentiate themselves and retain customers by building brands.
The alternative is race-to-the-lowest-price commodification and continual, cutthroat competition.
Branding is fine if it is considered, but most simply isn't.
If you make something well enough, people who love your gear for its quality will shout about it from the rooftops.
You need a stable brand, stable products, and patient owners.
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But I think that all such high-minded projects, especially once the founder becomes less involved, become subject to the "optimisation" of capitalism. The next CEO after the founder steps down might not be quite so high-minded, and the process known as "quality fade" begins.
As for your argument, I think it's reasonable but I would turn it on its head: to me every bit of money that's going into visible branding in some way is a signal that the company is putting effort into advertising itself on the outside of the clothing rather than improving quality. I can think of a couple of companies I buy from whose quality has declined in the last couple of decades overall in certain regards, and it's been directly associated with an increase in visible branding on their goods. Basically they started cashing in on their reputation, focusing on their brand identity rather than the quality of their items. Judging from comments in various places I'm not alone in the sense their quality has declined.
My impression is actually that it is not difficult to find minimally branded high-quality goods in many areas. In fact, the highest quality goods in a some areas are those with minimal or no branding.
I admit there are also many areas, like athletic wear, where this isn't usually the case. On the other hand, I've often noticed that if you actually compare some types of very high end activewear to less expensive variants, the difference is often just the logos. You're in effect paying more to have the logos off rather than less.
I personally feel that companies should be shamed out of including visible logos on their clothing.
Maybe we're talking about different things though. I do think having brand identifiers of some sort somewhere is important, as it increases accountability. And some things that are likely to be shuffled away, like laundry detergent, I don't really care about. But things that are likely to be out and about? Especially on you as a person? Brand visibility shouldn't be a factor imho.
It's an old retail move: a popular SKU is copied by the store to take more margin from its demand. Your suppliers test product viability for you.
P.S. sidenote, can totally recommend their monitor arms.
So like all of the other "-less" things being pushed recently, it actually means "thing is hidden and we pretend it's not there", not "without the thing".
News of startups dying happens every day, even for VC-backed ones. There seems to be some kind of extra scrutiny applied to SoftBank in the post WeWork debacle. It's rather unfortunate, because that creates a narrative that's distracting.
1) SoftBank doesn't give up on companies it believes can be fixed. Look at Sprint as an example. So when a SoftBank company fails, it's not a simple oversight.
2) The narrative about WeWork wasn't created, it was real. Bullshit valuation of a company whose few competitors were worth less despite ostensibly executing better. SoftBank gets to wear that one. You can't exactly call a multi-billion-dollar loss a "distraction."
signed: someone who programmed for a SoftBank backed company
But their biggest bets are heavily in the red and they are having trouble raising their second fund, which means LPs are doubtful they can return top quartile VC returns.
https://www.google.com/search?q=no+name+products+canada&clie...
Leadership constantly lied about the financial situation being wonderful and focused primarily on sending tens of thousands of dollars worth of free product to D-list Instagram influencers that only affluent, unemployed Marin stepmoms paid any attention to. As such, the typical customer ordered one bottle of coconut oil and filed 32 customer service tickets complaining about the box it came in. It doesn't take a genius to see how that's going to pan out but the ubiquitous narcissistic marketing bros were able to con their way through hiring more and more of their friends to come up with brilliant ideas like "Groupon" in spite of the fact that their numbers were consistently pathetic and they were generating more HR complaints than sales.
SoftBank installed a new CEO and his plan to increase AOV was literally snake oil. He lasted a couple months. Nobody on the ground knew if he left voluntarily or not. My guess is "not." After that they started hawking Alibaba blenders you can buy with a different logo on them for $40 and I have no idea why it took this long for them to pull the plug. I do think they deserve some credit for not actually giving them all of the money at once, though.
The day they shut down somebody did something stupid with the old payroll system and it sent additional copies of 2018 W2s to the IRS with bogus numbers on them. Folks are now receiving threatening letters from the government demanding payment for tens of thousands of dollars of unreported, nonexistent income and there's nobody left who knows how to do anything about it. A tire fire to the bitter, bitter end.
Wait, what?
Could anyone imagine that going well, rather than meaning "countdown to 'what an incredible journey'"?
People are making apt comparisons to AmazonBasics, grocery in-house brands -- apt because these are all brands. People choose those goods for a variety of reasons including the reputation of those brands.
With a modestly trained eye, people can spot the difference between a logo-free Old Navy white t-shirt and a Gap one (not to mentiono a Hanes t-shirt.) The lack of a logo doesn't make something without brand.
This dynamic may have been lost on entrepreneurs more concerned with VC decks and tech stacks.
The office was honestly a cramped, sweltering sty and not at all showy.
100MM SV office
50MM La Croix
25MM Standing desks
25MM Scooters
The bottled water brand? Is this a joke? Did they not realize water from the tap is safe and virtually free?
Now now, it isn't bottled water. It's homeopathic soda!
> Is this a joke?
While I'm not the OP, I'm pretty sure the answer is yes. :)
Too bad they folded before establishing a brand identity.
I was very young, but IIRC, it was all in its own aisle.
https://jjc807.files.wordpress.com/2014/05/home-brand-produc...
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