Ubuntu takes all of about 10 minutes to install a full blown desktop and Just Works™ based on my recent experience. Not to take anything away from the amazing tweakability and customizability of Arch, but the target audience is completely different.
I use the anarchy distro to help me through the installation. It doesn't change the fact you need to understand the underlying installation process, but reduces the installation time to several minutes. There is also arco linux for a more user-friendly interface
The out of the box crowd can always use Manjaro.
Python packages don't install on /usr/local on Arch which makes it easy to wreck your installation, many projects and scripts out there only support Ubuntu and not Arch, etc.
And I say this as an Arch fan who would rather avoid Ubuntu...
virtualenv?
Before I try to respond, you have to ask yourself: what do you imagine is the reason why Ubuntu folks have gone out of their way to patch Python for /usr/local? Surely it's not out of ignorance for virtualenv?
interesting, I never looked where the python aur packages were installed
This isn't AUR-specific, it's an issue that comes up with sudo pip install.
pip with sudo is always discouraged. Did you encounter use cases that absolutely requires you to install packages with `sudo pip`?
I don't even encounter use cases that "absolutely require" me to use Arch in the first place.
I assume no then, so just stop misusing python package manager and stop blaming distros for it
You can assume whatever you want, and I'm not blaming anyone, just telling you what reasons people have for using one distro over the other. You're arguing with the wrong person for the wrong reason.
Sorry I came down to arguing like that, but I really honestly wanted to know what problems there were with the scenario you proposed. I am in devops and those are the kind of nuances I need to account for. That I why I asked for examples and felt your answer was condescending. But anyways, I can see from this thread that asking questions is somewhat frowned upon here, when the question itself is of a nature that displeases people, so I'll refrain from participating like this in the future.
really folks, I know the downvote system is useful, but on a question? I mean, I have to know the answer beforehand so I don't get downvoted? I am really tempted not to use this platform anymore
Downvoters are aggressive here yes. It's a shame, though your question isn't particularly pertinent to this article.
Kind of a double-edged sword that keeps the discussion on target.