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On mac os its mostly unusable, because this PIP window stays on same workspace. My browser is always fullscreen and in safari I can open small youtube window and move to other workspace (code, for example) and window still exists on each of them.

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This would be one advantage of the system's built-in PiP mode employed by Safari. I don't find the limitations (maximum size, single video) to be hinderances.

Can't you trigger that in Firefox also by right clicking on a video (or twice on YouTube) and then choosing PiP?

Problem is Firefox PiP don’t move other desktops on macOS. It is only available at where your window is.

I wish Safari could just open the video in a normal QuickTime Player window instead of a QuickLook-esque thing...

I am told one problem with the native macOS PiP window is that it does not allow programs to configure which playback controls to show. There is a Firefox bug in file for the workspace issue. Chromium works around this and Firefox is likely to use the same approach.

I recommend using mpv with the open-with extension instead (right click -> open with -> mpv.) Thanks to youtube-dl, mpv will handle most any video website except netflix. If you tell mpv to stay-on-top, the effect essentially picture-in-picture, but with the full capability of mpv. You can drag new links into mpv to change what video is playing (hold down shift while dragging in a new link to append to the playlist.)

https://github.com/darktrojan/openwith

I tried this because FF doesn't do hardware video decoding yet, and, on an older laptop, FF was taking up a whole core for watching YouTube vs. around 30% in mpv.

Unfortunately every "open with.." solution I tried though took 10-15 seconds to open the video in mpv, which turned out to be even more frustrating than the problem.

I've experienced what you describe. I think the problem is most severe when you're on a high-latency connection, such as a VPN to an endpoint far away, because there are a few round trips in the process with youtube-dl. I don't really have a solution to that, but using --force-window=immediate can help a little (it will make a blank mpv window appear immediately, before the video is ready, so at least you aren't left wondering whether you misclicked prior to the video starting.)

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