Europe Just Voted in Favor of Making iPhone and Android Use the Same Charger
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Is this 2004, when every charger is hardwired to it’s transformer? Nope - last time I checked my iPhone and android devices all shipped with the same USB charger but they have 4 different cables (lightning, mini usb, micro usb, and usb-c). Are those cables a huge contributor to e-waste?
Also, we’ve been through this before - what would have happened if the EU was successful last time and we were all forced to use micro-usb? No usb c, that’s what.
It's great they did this, but we'll see if it's just lawmakers playing house
What if I create a new charging cable that's super fast charging, 10x safer, supports massive transfer rates and so on and so forth... how do I test that in the market? I can't, because it would be illegal to sell it.
This is a law that, to me, seems good on the surface and potentially products consumers, but actually it prevents people/companies trying new ideas and using the market to test them.
Reuse USB-C, negotiate faster power deliver/alternate data modes, fall back to plain USB for other chargers.
Not a big problem.
But you raise a good point: I'm forced to use the same physical interface (USB-C) so I can't innovate in the physical realm neither.
I can't innovate/test a new protocol if it requires a new connector and I can't keep the protocols in place but innovate on the physical aspects neither. Nice.
Is that really "innovation" for the commons? Or just more proprietary products?
These chargers work with my phone (iPhone 8) and my partner’s phone (Samsung), and I couldn’t be happier with them.
Something like 20-40% of input energy is wasted when using wireless charging versus a wire. If every existing phone switched to wireless charging, that would cause a non-trivial increase in total power usage.
That is probably because batteries can hold a very limited amount of energy and therefore mobile software is developed to use very little electricity.
But on the other hand, less energy efficient chargers wont help this. I just mean it's not the big problem about our smartphones energy consumption.
> therefore mobile software is developed to
> use very little electricity.
I see that you're _not_ in the mobile dev industry!
Power consumption is the type of thing that is talked about in prerelease mobile software, and removed from the bullet points during release. Nobody optimizes for power consumption at the expense of features, bugs, or developer time.E.g. you put the phone down but it was 0.5mm too far to the left or 1 degree rotated wrong and it would not charge, meaning you'd wake up in the morning and the battery was flat. Often the phone vibrating knocked it out of alignment even if you got it right the first time.
So instead of just plugging the phone in, you had to delicately place the phone in just-the-right-place - repeat 4 or 5 times before you got it right etc. Good riddance frankly - it was a shit user experience. I think the high-priced OEM docks relied on really strong magnets to force alignment.
Has it got better yet?
I believe Apple got around it by selling Lightning to Micro USB adapters in their stores.
For example who throws away their old charger when they get a new device? Why would anyone do that when you can have more than one charger in convenient places, have one for travel etc?
Is there any research behind any of this?
Often you get crap ones bundled with stuff anyway - e.g. 500ma or 1a output.
Also, don't take those chargers to the dump, instead take them to a thrift store or some charity. They can sell the things for a few €, the things get reused, everybody is happy.
I guess that raises the issue that iPhones have a much longer usable life too - most of then get handed down at least once or twice.
Recently got an iPhone and never even unboxed my Lightning cable, I already have wireless chargers plentifully spread from my Windows Phone.
Its funny that we need a law for this, but we really do.
Never mind the bizarre obsession the usb group had with making as many holes to get stuff stuck in as possible, nor the excessively loose tolerances in the spec.
But hey, now we get to have usb-c forever, with no way for any company to move to anything else.
They couldn’t find something useful to do with their time?
That means you'd be unlikely to ever see something like MagSafe be shipped.
Similarly, for anyone to iterate on usb-c they'd have to get a new spec standardized, and then go to the EU parliament to get that new spec bought in. The moment that happens you're back to multiple plugs.
I still don't understand what problem they think they're solving with this - the first change is millions of cables and devices become defunct through legally mandated obsolescence.
The next change is what...?