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I don't see this as price shaming. I see a HUGE "we don't trust these folks to begin with...". Facebook is cancer for humanity. It gives 1 and takes 50. And then dilligently finds ways to use that 50 to hurt you, for their profit. I wouldn't trust any sensitive information with them. And especially CERN? These guys have info and tech to end life. Some random admin with god-mode that will get bribed by Saudis/<insert other criminals/dictatorships> wouldn't hesitate providing them with any data.

For some organizations, the value of their data/information is worth much more than the £€$5k/10k/50k that their collaboration tools cost. CERN is one of them. I prefer to pay £€$10 per year more taxes so they don't use scum like Facebook.

(angry words yes, but hey.. they tried hard to earn them feelings - perhaps if they evern become less scum-my, maybe people will trust them more)

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>And especially CERN? These guys have info and tech to end life.

Someone has been reading too many Dan Brown novels.

> And especially CERN? These guys have info and tech to end life

I work at CERN, no we do not.

I am just thinking why can't CERN make their own worplace equivalent platform for their people considering the fact that they help create the internet itself.

CERN did not create the internet. Tim Berners-Lee created the world wide web.

Also keep in mind that there actually existed many predecessors of hypertext systems (EDIT: see https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Timeline_of_hyper... ); just for some reason (let's say because the world wide web was in the right spot at the right time), the world wide web became hugely popular.

The Internet and the Web are not the same thing. The Web is a service that runs on the Internet, just like DNS, E-Mail, and the like. Your cellphone is not a text messaging program.

That's exactly what someone at CERN holding tech to end life would say ;)

> I wouldn't trust any sensitive information with them. And especially CERN? These guys have info and tech to end life.

This is a matter of GALACTIC SECURITY.

> And especially CERN? These guys have info and tech to end life.

Wat.

They have both hammers and phone books, I'm sure.

Probably a few ladders and some cleaning agents capable of creating slippery floors scattered around their facility as well.

I'm pretty sure you can kill people with their particle accelerator too if the particles hit you. You'd probably be int he vacuum of the accelerator though so unsure if you'd notice.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anatoli_Bugorski

Didn't kill him, but "fatigue of mental work increased markedly," lost hearing in one ear, and half his face was paralyzed.

That was a 76 GeV proton beam, compared to the LHC at 6.5 TeV, or 85.5 times the energy per proton.

The LHC will most likely not be as tame in comparison.

It was all well and good when it was just "Gordon, please push the sample cart into the beam."

Have you seen the entrances to the accelerator caverns? You really need to watch your step there, if you fall you'll die for sure! The CERN is harnessing these ancient, fundamental powers for this, we barely understand how they work... gravity.

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