PyTorch will make their engineers and scientists a decent amount more productive. I don't see how that's unintelligent at all.
PyTorch will make their engineers and scientists a decent amount more productive. I don't see how that's unintelligent at all.
You literally can't train models on GPUs when they require 300GB for backprop. Not unless you do model parallelization, which isn't always possible (and is significantly more engineering effort than "just run the model").
When you have policies like this, you lose out on such advantages. Especially for infrastructure purposes.
A TPU v3 has 16 GB of high-bandwidth memory per TPU core: https://cloud.google.com/tpu/docs/system-architecture
Sure, you can network together a bunch of TPUs to get access to more memory (in either a data parallel or model parallel way), but that doesn't give you more memory on the same chip. It's basically the same way you would do things on a GPU cluster.
The TPU software does data parallelism (in Tensorflow) transparently, and it’s somewhat easier to do model parallelism because the memory link is solid and requires no special setup / drivers. You’ll still get an OOM from XLA if you have a tensor that won’t fit in the 16GB of a single core.
TPU pods are easier to use than clusters of infiniband-linked volta boxes. For TPUs you just give GCE money and make some small changes to your use of the TPU API. For the volta cluster you’d probably need to bring your own orchestration (e.g. Horovod). So a TPU pod is easier for one person to use and admin currently.
Think of a TPU as a box with a CPU, RAM, and eight GPUs. In the same way that you can run code on either the GPUs or the CPU, you can run code on the TPU's CPU.
When you run code on the TPU's CPU, you have access to up to 300GB before OOMing. It's distinct from running on the TPU cores, which gives you only 8GB for TPUv2 and 16GB for TPUv3, as you say.
I use this technique regularly. All you have to do is tf.device(None): # ops go here
The TPU's CPU is pretty fast. Normally it's only used for input pipeline transformations. I have no idea why. We use it for actual backprop on massive models.
(I call this "coreless mode" because "TPU's CPU" is a confusing mouthful.)
For example, right now we're training GPT-2 117M with a 25k context window on 47 TPUv3-8's: https://tensorboard.dev/experiment/idXs4PGOTEe1Jl6g3tq4qA/
25k context window is far, far out of reach of any GPU for GPT-2.
You can verify this is true by fine-tuning GPT-2 1.5B on Colab using a TPUv2-8: https://colab.research.google.com/drive/1BXry0kcm869-RVHHiY6...
If a TPUv2-8 only had access to 8GB, it would be impossible to train GPT-2 1.5B, let alone using Adam with a batch size > 1.
EDIT: Here's a simpler notebook: https://colab.research.google.com/drive/1ohuxvB7nuvcjpLLIF1L...
!git clone https://github.com/shawwn/gpt-2 /content/gpt-2
%cd gpt-2
!pip3 install -r requirements.txt
!python3 download_model.py 1558M
!python3 train.py --dataset train.py --model_name 1558M --optimizer adam --batch_size 4
GPT-2 1.5B with Adam + batch size 4 works great on a TPUv2-8. https://i.imgur.com/w8T5CQI.pngIn a business context, TPUs seem far cheaper. A preemptible TPUv2-8 only costs $1.35/hr. It looks like 8x Quadro 8000's would cost >$40k.
the TPU equivalent of 8x quadro 8000 would be something between tpu v2-32 and tpu v3-32, and the monthly cost of tpu v2-32 is ~$8k. Plus the cost of a beefy VM. Assuming the GPU build sets you back ~$60k, it will start saving you $8k/mo after 6 months.
TPU pods actually don't require a beefy VM; I'm using a 2GB RAM one.
As for the beefy vm - can you do heavy data preprocessing on tpus? For example elastic distortions or scaling for images? Probably not, because usually it involves OpenCV or similar libraries.
(If a TPUv2-8 has 64GB memory, how can it fine tune GPT-2 1.5B using Adam with batch size 4? That requires almost 300GB.)
Are you paying on-demand or preemptible prices? Have you tried larger pod slices to see if they have even more of this “system memory”?
A TPUv3 pod is actually a bunch of individual TPUv3-8's linked together. There's 8 cores per device, so a TPUv3-512 has 512 cores divided by 8 cores per device = 64 individual TPUs. (You can get each individual TPU's IP address using `gcloud compute tpus list`: https://imgur.com/Qym4l17)
The big question is, since there are 64 individual TPUs, does that mean we have access to 300GB * 64 = 19.2 TB of memory?
I haven't tested that, but I would bet the answer is yes, for two reasons. 1. I've seen allocations of up to 7TB according to memory usage logs, so 19TB doesn't seem far fetched in comparison. 2. If you create 64 individual TPUv3-8's, then you definitely will have access to 300GB of memory on each TPU, so it's the same engineering problem either way.
Right now, people only seem to use the TPU's CPU for infeed processing / input pipeline transformations. But the CPU is quite fast – it's almost as fast as an actual TPU core.
I wrote up some more about this in a tweet chain if you're interested: https://twitter.com/theshawwn/status/1223395022814339073
Also, if you want to play around with a few TPUv3-8's and you have a GCE project, feel free to DM me on twitter. We just figured out how to forward TPUs to VMs in different projects: https://twitter.com/theshawwn/status/1221241517626445826
Is there an official specification clarifying this somewhere?
Not that I've seen. I stumbled across it by accident. https://twitter.com/theshawwn/status/1163799288771698688
Specifically, the code checks whether the model's shape is greater than the shape from the snapshot on disk. If so, it repeats the shape from the snapshot on disk N times to fill the expected greater shape.
At that point, you can just set context window to a larger value, then train.
Generating more tokens seems to work up to a point -- you can probably generate up to 1050 tokens with this technique. But at a certain point, more tokens = gibberish.
The cure is to train the new wpe layer the same way you'd train the smaller one. But this also means you don't have to start training from scratch.