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The sites I build at work have proper push notifications. This problem has already been solved.

I will never enable push notifications from websites. This problem has not been solved. It also doesn't hold across devices or if the browser isn't open.

Why not? You do, for apps, right?

App PNs also don't "hold" across devices. You don't need to have the browser "open", whatever that means.

BTW there are tons of apps that do push notifications wrong. There are many apps which keep sending you PNs after you log out or switch accounts. This can be really sensitive content (e.g. chat apps).

Replying to myself, here is a NSFW example: https://www.reddit.com/r/tifu/comments/e8ux6j/tifu_by_lettin...

How did you solve the lack of push notifications on iOS?

For iOS, can't you just wrap your web application in a thin native app layer that provides the push functionality?

From the app store guidelines:

4.2 Minimum Functionality

Your app should include features, content, and UI that elevate it beyond a repackaged website. If your app is not particularly useful, unique, or “app-like,” it doesn’t belong on the App Store.

Perhaps the main distinguishing app-like thing is distracting notifications.

Right! I ran in to this when I wanted our app to “portal” to the website and just move Bluetooth data along. Apple thought about this and doesn’t like it.

4.3 We'll continue to get away with this until the EU makes us stop.

Would push notification support not be exactly the kind of feature that would qualify for this rule? In practice there are hundreds of apps like this on the app store.

You can, you just can't publish it on the appstore.

How do you distribute it in that case? Outside of enterprise apps, which are not allowed to be public.

Sorry but I think I don't understand your question.

If you use a native wrapper and load a webview inside you can publish it in the AppStore.

Yes you can and we are exactly doing this since quite a while. Actually a lot of companies do this.

Yes you can and there tons of apps that do just that.

The important part is that they go through the app store, so that apple has complete control of what goes through.

They probably embedded the browser in a client.

Short answer: He didn't. You cannot do it without your app being in the App Store.

for iOS you can have a work around. The users using the web based app in safari, then whenever a notification needs to be sent, twilio api will send a SMS message to alert the user. Of course it will only send an sms message if the user allows it and enters the mobile number.

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