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That all sounds great, but what is their business model? How do I pay them for their service?

I checked.

It seems to be free for the first 300,000 queries per month, then switches to a regular DNS (no blocking). Unlimited queries are $1.99 per month.

https://nextdns.io/pricing

Ok, but by paying you basically hand them your personal information which they can now tie to your internet access patterns. So now, besides your ISP, there's one more party with this info.

EDIT: they accept cryptocurrencies, so the problem is slightly less critical.

In case you use their DOH service (or TLS), it's only them, not your ISP.

You ISP still sees which IP addresses you eventually connect to.

Which are mainly going to be owned by AWS, GCP, Azure, DO, or CloudFlare

SNI (Server Name Indication) leak is still present and your ISP may know what website you're asking.

It's $2/month for unlimited requests, apparently: https://nextdns.io/pricing

That's surprisingly very reasonably priced.

Pricing is surely very reasonable, but I'm not comfortable with the idea of paying for not getting something. The whole system is flawed and building businesses on a flaw is a step in the wrong direction if we want to fuel motivation to solve that flaw.

The city of flint has a lot of water theyd like to sell you, it comes with extra so it follows your model. You should also love basic Hulu, they sell you a version that comes WITH added ads, such benefit.

In reality there are plenty of places you are paying for refined or filtered products. Organic or pesticide free foods, gas (you or your supply chain use it), higher end CPUs (less defects), it goes on and on.

You're also paying for the Internet access. Go build one and we'll pay you.

Is it? You can run a DNS server on a watch.

Not on my watch

It is free during beta. Then essentially a freemium model: https://nextdns.io/pricing.

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