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With the growing amount of consciousness towards ethically-sourced meat, I'm not sure your statement is 100% true

When surveyed, most people respond that the meat they buy is ethically sourced but it is rarely the case.

Most meat that is claimed to be ethically sourced is far from it. Worse yet, the places where demand is growing the fastest, are places with minimal concern for how the animals are treated.

"Ethically sourced meat" is essentially a marketing gimmick. It generally doesn't denote conditions that are meaningfully different from "normal" meat.

So, you're saying that farm-raised, open-pasture, free-range, or other titles are meaningless? I don't think that is true when the labels are used honestly

>So, you're saying that farm-raised, open-pasture, free-range, or other titles are meaningless?

Yes.

1)A knife is still shoved into their throats so they bleed out.

2)You can get all the nutrients you need in a plant-based diet.

Legally speaking, yes. AFAIK the only one of those terms that carries any legal requirements is "free-range," which is defined only for poultry, and the requirement there is literally just "has had access to the outside," without any stipulations on how much of its life that access applied to or what "outside" means (so, for example, a small patch of pavement behind the factory is totally free-range).

there's no "ethically sourced" meat that doesn't involve that sort of pain/suffering

Nature isn't exactly painless with how it sources its meat either. Hell it can be (and often is) downright cruel. Just because we should strive not to subject animals to the same level of suffering as nature can, doesn't mean that all animal slaughter is bad

This is a straw man, and not an argument against the comment you replied to.

And how exactly is that a strawman? How is a quick death not better than the slow, agonizingly prolonged deaths that predators often give to their prey? I question your knowledge of nature if you don't seem to be willing to recognize its sheer gruesome capriciousness?

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