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Java and C# are a morass of complexity. There is no job or project where you just use the language Java/C#, you have to pull their immense libraries and frameworks in too.

On the other hand Delphi's just Delphi. That's quite refreshing in a world where everything depends on everything else.

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> Java and C# are a morass of complexity. There is no job or project where you just use the language Java/C#, you have to pull their immense libraries and frameworks in too

I used Delphi for years back in the day, and will always have a soft spot for it. But your claims here are simply not true - the .NET standard library is huge, and you can get a lot done without any other packages.

Because most jobs and projects have complex requirements that aren't satisfied by the standard library of ANY language. But that's irrelevant for teaching.

The Java/.NET stdlibs are huge. They are more than sufficient to teach basically any of the foundational skills. Then if you want to learn Hibernate or ORMs, no problem, that's only a small extra step.

>On the other hand Delphi's just Delphi

is this true today? Back in the day it was Delphi + JediVCL + JediCL + plus lots of other different components that looked better than bundled ones. Does it have a package manager or you still need to install a bunch of EXEs?

> There is no job or project where you just use the language Java/C#, you have to pull their immense libraries and frameworks in too.

Why do you think this? I regularly write plain Java code, or code using just a couple of simple libraries.

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