Why the Internet is creating more value than jobs
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Why the steam engine is creating a lot more value than jobs C19
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I'm not sure if this is a net win or net lose, overall, for the world. But it's certainly a net win for certain subsets of the population, and a net lose for other subsets. But even for those who it is a net lose, they are not forced to stay in some frozen static configuration or context, there are choices one can make to shift oneself to take better advantage of the new economic landscape, making it more likely to be a net win for them. It may not be easy. But few things in life are easy, and the universe doesn't guarantee anybody a free lunch (outside the more extreme cases of great inherited wealth, etc.)
One thing I'm sure of is that, all other things being equal, we're lucky to be in the field of software and the Internet at a time when this shift is occurring, because we're in a population subset where it can more easily be a net win for us.
While this is great for individuals on the right side of the digital divide, we'll continue to see the impact this will have on societies for some time to come.
Which is why mechanizing the farm didn't leave 80% unemployment in its wake.
The market for labor is like any other market. If prices are allowed to fluctuate, supply will continuously adjust to meet demand and vice-versa.
But if prices are kept artificially high, there will be a surplus. More workers will try to get the higher wages and jobs that are unprofitable for employers at the high price will not be filled.
You may not like, you may not even want to understand or acknowledge it, but this is how people behave in any market.
We're now telling people well past their prime to switch to more cerebral jobs because we've automated or outsourced the low-skill value added jobs and the pool of what's left drives down wages further due to all the people competing for them.
The problem is that we've increased productivity efficiencies and passed the savings onto the shareholders. A free market is efficient, not perfect.
I can assure you there is job security in a completely stagnant economy. But not very much capital for education, startups or mortgages, or freedom to live your life and take the risks that make it worth living.
Going forward we could see applications that make it really easy for individuals without direct knowledge of HTML, CSS and a server scripting language to create valuable tools (they do exist know, but not really in a way that enable the right audience to create the right things). These, along with the existing social tools, are the things that could change the way an economy works by cutting out large corporations and creating an entire market of "externalities."
or will the future economy be "click on this really cool web app and send its' creator a loaf of bread!"?
For the "great stagnation" folks, apparently "everything important" is macro and that indeed, in a documentable way has not been growing exponentially. For the singularity folks "everything important" is micro and has been growing exponentially in a documentable way.
If the article had an argument why micro stuff has suddenly stopped mattering, that would one thing. But the discussion here seems to dismissal through mere trick-language.
This being said, there is a large divergence between exponential increase in computation and macroeconomic growth. The gains from computation have been highly consolidated (to a small number of extremely talented entrepreneurs not unlike our own HN community), whereas other major industries have stagnated or declined (housing, finance, manufacturing). I believe Tyler Cowen and his "Great Stagnation" sums it up nicely in that the net loss in those industries has been larger and more relevant macroeconomically than the relatively concentrated gains in Silicon Valley.
tl;dr: computation is fueling rapid new industries which create wealth, but that wealth is highly consolidated as it does not require labor to grow (labor required is replaced by computation). This causes economic stagnation for the great majority of the population (+/- 2 std dev of mean or 95%) who are unable to capitalize on the computational opportunities.
I generally agree with your definition of my terms and your points. I would note that "Wealth" itself is a poorly defined term even compared other fuzzy economic terms. Micro-level technology is giving many people more range of actions than ever before but it's impact on measured economic wealth has been obscure.
A much larger portion of homeless people have cellphones today than ten years ago. But larger portion of people are homeless today than ten years ago - at least if you believe this is a recession.
If tomorrow, a chemical was released into the atmosphere which doubled the lifespan of everyone on earth, most would agree life would be improved. Yet no one would have a cent more money and it is actually hard to say what its impact on the economic system would be.
if lifespan of everybody doubled it would have devastating effect on world economy, as one of the most important issues we face today is population aging (and not just in developed world, but in China as well for example).
that's why we find our thesis that we should be selling higher margin products to developing world and leave cheap stuff to be produced by them broken - they get our knowledge essentially for free, leaving us without manufacturing base and without capability to fund innovation further. and there's nothing we can do about it either, in my opinion.