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Remember when they used to have the big halloween celebration in the SF Castro? They cancelled it when gangsters from the east bay showed up and decided to start shooting each other.[1] This is why we can't have nice things in America. You have to charge an entrance fee or have a doorman checking ID and bouncing gangsters at any public nighttime event where you have a lot of gangsters around unfortunately. For example, whenever I go to clubs in bad parts of town they won't let me in if I am wearing a plain color t-shirt if it doesn't have some sort of writing on it.

[1]https://www.sfgate.com/politics/article/9-people-shot-at-Cas...

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No idea why you are being downvoted. I was at that last Halloween event and sad when it got cancelled hence. You can’t have nice things indeed because of the idiotic gun culture. SF lost a part of it’s heritage back then.

Maybe this has to do with the negative side of drug culture of the USA. In Hong Kong and Taipei there is hardly any drug use, and therefore crime is reduced a lot as well.

Noticed this in Tokyo as well. I stayed in Shibuya and never felt scared walking alone at night. SF is a different beast entirely; I've never felt safe there full stop.

It's more america's history of intergenerational poverty, trauma and slavery. The drug laws incarcerating people are not helping either.

It takes 7 generations for that kind of stuff to clear out I've heard.

Asia has had tons of poverty and trauma for a lot longer than the USA even existed.

And if its slavery, then why are European cities the same way?

>It's more america's history of intergenerational poverty, trauma and slavery. The drug laws incarcerating people are not helping either.

You have overlooked the third and fourth option: intergenerational poverty and drug laws.

Southeast Asian drug laws are far more draconian than American drug laws and the only reason nobody talks about intergenerational poverty there is because single-generation poverty doesn't exist. Imperialistic powers took turns colonising the region for a century or so and then World War 2 happened. Everyone came from generations of having no wealth and no power.

Hong Kong consumes very large amounts of Ketamine, MDMA and Cocaine. Admittedly, not so much meth or crack.

From what I can see online, there are only around 8000 reported drug users out of a population of 7 million or 0.1 %. https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fpsyt.2018.0045...

The actual number is probably higher, but doesn't compare to the USA with 24 million drug abusers out of a population of 331 million or 7.25%. https://www.drugabuse.gov/publications/drugfacts/nationwide-...

Where are you getting your information from that it is a problem in Hong Kong?

Are plain colored T-Shirts some kind of gang symbol? Does it make it harder to ID you? I can't think of any other reason to not allow plain t-shirts in a club.

Gangs tend to have colors associated with them, and members sometimes wear a lot of that color to signal their affiliation.

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