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Boeing 737 Down After Taking Off from Tehran

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...and Iran is withholding the flight recorders, which, coupled with the location and timing are a might suspicious...

Yeah, the publicly available flight information shows it basically exploded wholesale in mid-air. That doesn't just happen with modern aircraft.

How so? Debris field doesn't look that large and the supposed video of the crash shows burning plane and large explosion on impact to the ground.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S_iizkgIOfU

The flight information on FlightRadar24 shows no sign of deviation or trouble, then abruptly ends during the ascent. https://www.flightradar24.com/blog/ukrainian-flight-ps752-cr...

That means the transponder became non-viable at that point. Any sort of in-air catastrophe could have caused that, including onboard fire.

Redundant airplane systems protect against component failure, but they tend to still be near each other. For example, if an AA gun were to tag the plane in the right place it could easily take out power to both a primary and backup.

It really doesn't look like a mid-air explosion. It was either a massive spontaneous fire for some reason (assuming the burning thing in the social media post was the plane) or it got shot down.

Looks like it got shot down, it just wasn't destroyed right away. Now there's even a video of the event.

https://twitter.com/trbrtc/status/1215348488164298752

That doesn't mean it exploded mid-air. If it exploded mid-air where the FlightRadar24 data end, the debris field would be in the direction of the flight and spread wide. Debris field is in the opposite direction and elsewhere though.

It was not that high, so the area is smaller than it would have been if the plane would have fallen from 10000 km altitude.

Well, most airframes will explode wholesale in mid-air when they come into contact with anti-aircraft missiles

(which, of course, was your point -- and also, as it turns out, what happened)

Also the way the debris were scattered on the ground suggests an explosion. This also correlates with what they said about no mayday call from the aircraft. It was taken down or it was a collission with a drone or something like that.

Well would ya look at that... The Iranians shot the plane out of the sky after all.

Looks like the crash had nothing to do with the model number of the aircraft after all.

Yes. But suspicious of what?

Lemme be blunt. Some people believe that since this happened at a time military tensions between Iran and the US were escalating, the plane could have been taken down mistakenly by a trigger-happy general as a false positive.

Perhaps. But a general of which side? It was, I think, over Iran, so Iran's air defense would be the logical suspect. And Iran withholding the flight recorders would fit with that.

The more paranoid, of course, will look beyond the logical suspects...

Last time a civilian aircraft was shot down over Iranian airspace it was the US. And while they agreed to some “no-blame” deal including a financial compensation they never actually apologized for murdering 290 innocent people. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran_Air_Flight_655

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