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Living in Eastern Europe right now. It's +6 Celsius for the last week. Earth hasn't frozen yet, so if any snow falls it melts in a few hours.

In comparison, when I was growing up here in the 90s; we had solid -30 Celsius winters for several months.

You had to prepare opposed to nowadays, where buying a winter jacket comes down to preference. Cold or not cold...

But climate change is a hoax, right?

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I mean I live in Eastern Europe too, Hungary and it's -7c now. No snow but everything is frozen. I don't think our local experiences are a good indicator.

>we had solid -30 Celsius winters for several months

I'm curious, do you have any data source about that? -30c for several months sounds really extreme

Why would you ask me for data when you can look that up for yourself?

I speak from experience.

Maybe in Siberia? I can’t find anything for, say, Ukraine to suggest it averaged -30 for months

>I was growing up here in the 90s; we had solid -30 Celsius winters for several months.

Where? In your imagination?

https://weatherspark.com/h/y/148642/1990/Historical-Weather-...

https://weatherspark.com/h/y/148509/1990/Historical-Weather-...

https://weatherspark.com/h/y/148455/1990/Historical-Weather-...

https://weatherspark.com/h/y/148594/1990/Historical-Weather-...

Charitable, Ufa in Russia gets pretty close: https://weatherspark.com/h/y/148894/1990/Historical-Weather-...

And that is litterally as east in Europe one can go - I honestly didn’t realise how far into Russia you can go before crossing the Ural Mountains.

Temperature rising ~2°C/century:

https://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=Temperature+in+ufa

linear trend: 0.021 °C/yr±0.016 °C/yr (48 yr/°C)

low: -47 °C 1979 | average high: | 35 °C average low: | -35 °C | high: 39 °C 1952, ...

Please don't be a jerk in HN comments. If you have correct information, it's enough to provide that without crossing into personal attack. These threads are flamewar prone enough as it is.

Maybe I should have prefaced my last sentence in the original comment with a fat /sarcasm tag. I know it's a sensitive topic but I appreciate you pointing out the insensitivity in my reply.

Weather still isn't climate and while the abstract states their model detect climate change within a very small time-frame (a day), it still requires global data to do so.

I'm sure the converse is true too and that models should be able to detect climate change locally within a large time-frame.

I “feel” the same way about the east coast of the US, but I know that is super unscientific - comparing impressions as an adult to childhood memories, but I really don’t recall 70 degree days being routine. Now I live in the upper midwest, I learned in some class that the upper Midwest of the US was one of the few places on Earth not warming on average (actually anomalously cold) but this winter is like one of the “old” east coast winters, I just stepped out in my shorts and flip-flops

I think Buffalo specifically

weather isn't climate

climate /ˈklʌɪmət/

noun

the weather conditions prevailing in an area in general or over a long period. "our cold, wet climate"

how can one copy paste an explanation without reading it?

"over a long period of time."

hot outside right now != climate is hot.

How is 25 years not a long time?

Climate change is not a hoax. Man-made climate change, on the other hand…

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