This is the type of attitude that is why people get so annoyed by bikers. It's not a huge portion of the population that is fit enough to ride ~85km in a day. Yet whenever people discuss commuting, there's a chorus of bikers pipe in how biking is so easy and everyone else is a dummy for not doing it, in every city I've lived in. E-bikes and E-scooters can vastly open up the non-car transportation market, don't be smug.

> Had a nice ~85 km afternoon loop today.

That's nice as a sport but we are mostly talking about commuting here. The assist an e-bike gives you is nice if you don't want to sweat and have to go uphill.

You're talking to people who sit in front of computers most of the day, lol