Though I agree as far as tech brand goes Google seems to have gone down much faster than other big tech cos go.
Though I agree as far as tech brand goes Google seems to have gone down much faster than other big tech cos go.
Windows 10 broke new ground in privacy violations in a desktop operating system, but things are much farther away from the public eye. Even for something like deprecating services, Microsoft shut down their ebook store, where users had paid for the books, and yet their brand value doesn't get impacted as much as Google's.
While it’s brand may have suffered, the company still employs a lot of smart and creative people. I would hope that they tap into that pool to come up with better solutions than “hire better PR”.
Google championed a culture that allowed SJW-ism to thrive in its own rank that isn't really true of other large companies. Cheerleading social progressivism and then forgoing its "do no evil" motto and then trying to act like any other big corp created massive cognitive dissonance among its own employees that isn't true of other companies.
Do you think this definition of SJW is correct?
“ "Social justice warrior" (SJW) is a pejorative term for an individual who promotes socially progressive views, including feminism, civil rights, and multiculturalism.[1][2][3] The accusation that somebody is an SJW carries implications that they are pursuing personal validation rather than any deep-seated conviction, and engaging in disingenuous arguments”
Is another word for 'we hire young, educated, mostly coastal, twenty and thirty-somethings who statistically lean left'.
There is nothing unusual about Googler political leanings, given the demographics of the tech worker pool.
Viewing it the way you are simply projects your own politics on a... Perfectly expected outcome of demographics.
But when a tech company does so, in another direction, that is, apparently, a hold the presses event...
Amazon and Microsoft have never codified in their value system anything that touches “never working with the military” and no one that joins either company should or does have the expectation that the company would ever back away from something so lucrative.
Google on the other hand has created a culture of “do no evil” (even if that isn’t their official motto anymore) that encouraged SJW-ism, and thus falsely gave the impressions to their workforce that they could speak up about socially progressive issues that have clashed with corporate strategy. They’ve created a workforce of snowflakes, for lack of a better term, and the cognitive dissonance created by a fake progressive culture is extremely counter productive.
Your second paragraph does not square with the principled stance Google made wrt China a decade ago. VPs abandoning those principles (and trying to keep the entire thing secret) is the unusual behaviour, in this case - not the pushback they met.
can you use a more real, adultish, less 4channic term to describe what you mean by this? Best I can tell "SJW" means anything from "anyone I disagree with" to "anyone who's not openly an asshole".
Do they? Google makes me way uncomfortable at the moment with their pervasive insight into everything but trust us anyway cause don't be evil.
MS seems like the underdog almost in the data mining game
*citation needed.
Taking Microsoft's side is not something I do lightly, but the amount of fuckups from Google doesn't even come close to what Microsoft did. From the privacy violations perspective which you brought up, Google has a wikipedia page https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Privacy_concerns_regarding_Goo...
Not to mention what Google is currently doing to the web with the whole Chrome and AMP bullshit.
> Even for something like deprecating services, Microsoft shut down their ebook store, where users had paid for the books
Microsoft does a damn good job at deprecating services. The ebooks have been refunded. As an enterprise consumer, I would choose Microsoft over Google every day of the year. They really do bend over backwards to keep older services/OSs alive. And that's where you need a lot of trust. Trust is NOT something I think about when I think about Google. It's funny you bring this up, when Google deprecates services like there's no tomorrow. And badly for that matter.
In fact, a large percentage doesn't even use pure Chrome, rather the OEM customized variant with an icon named Browser.
The NSA spied on everyone and got practically a yawn. Google as a competitor and suddenly they are the panopticon and receive utter bullshit accusations of "selling your data". Meanwhile ISPs did illegal shit and got retconned protection.
The inconsistencies speak volumes even accounting for Zeitgeist of the past.