The Red and The Black
blog.12security.com
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Their model was to sell smarter features as they build. In addition to this, apparently.
That turns out to be the same as "give us 30 days to pull any information we care about from your camera feed" - unless they decide it's worth making a copy, in which case they have forever.
[1] https://www.theverge.com/2019/12/30/21042974/wyze-server-bre...
https://blog.12security.com/wyze/
https://blog.12security.com/wyze-essay-2-aresflare/ <- technical details aplenty
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Full information is available at the following two blog posts, with more to come:
https://blog.12security.com/wyze/
https://blog.12security.com/wyze-essay-2-aresflare/ (many technical details here)
It also seems like a WSJ journalist has been helping on this (since they were compromised), so if this is real I'd expect an article soon.
I'm frustrated by the continued conflation of understandability and excusability. A band robber's motives are understandable, but we don't excuse them. However, while the systemic forces acting on business leaders make it understandable when they make mistakes, but we must draw a sharp line between understanding and excusing.
We can't credit leaders in good times, while also excusing them when systemic failures corrupt them.
I'm not a paranoid person. I do have Ring doorbell, a P.O.S Samsung camera and Alexa in my house. My rationale is that since those cameras are for outside of my home, I wouldn't care about being spied upon. But if the Wyzes are used by the CCP for surveillance foreign territories, this could spell a lot of trouble. For example, a week prior to the Pearl Harbor event, the imperial Japan phoned Japanese-American in Hawaii to ask about the weather, troop movement, military vehicles movement. I can't imagine if those outside cameras are used for the purpose, the intelligence gathered is paramount.
You could argue that since everybody is carrying a smartphone with camera nowadays, it wouldn't take much effort to "spy" foreign territories simply by checking social media uploaded. While it is true, would it be more devastating if they can see every thing anytime/anywhere they want?
https://boingboing.net/2016/10/20/reviving-an-ann-arbor-amba...
https://books.google.nl/books?id=-tNb_j8ivU0C&pg=RA1-PA36&lp...
http://www.bitsavers.org/pdf/datapro/alphanumeric_terminals/...
Unfortunately the other two blog posts were similarly poorly titled.
Which means HN users with Wyze devices will likely be in the dark about just how bad this is (only taking the company's official word) until the WSJ exposé.
we now believe at this time, and this evidence will be released over the next week, that Wyze was committing espionage against American citizens in the United States
That somebody "now believes something at this time and this evidence will be released over the next week" doesn't come close to being a substantive submission for Hacker News. Here we can wait for the actual information. "Over the next week" sounds like they plan to dole it out in pieces though, which is also not good for Hacker News. (Tricks to get page views generally aren't.)
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