A look inside TSMC
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I can’t think of how there is going to be a new entrant to the market that competes with the current three’s processes.
[1] https://en.wikichip.org/wiki/technology_node#Leading_edge_tr...
Unbundling the engineering model as the current system is highly integrated - do certain segments of the process better than the incumbents. This would be primarily a business model innovation, not an engineering one.
New architectures, as Intel have shown lately, their architecture isn't perfect. This requires a new set of design thinking from the ground up and challenging existing assumptions about Von Neumann architectures and instruction sets. Risc V gives some hope to this idea.
Non-silicon (Photonics, GaN, Diamond, Quantum, etc.) computing technology would require new skills with different materials that the incumbents don't possess. Still years away though.
Commodity EUV and further process simplification would greatly reduce the barrier to entry but requires new uninvented engineering technology and practices.
But the belief that to be a competitive fab house you have to churn out high performance chips is in itself one of the existing unquestioned assumptions of chip manufacture which may not pan out in the longer term. The idea of the generic CPU may very well become seen as a luxurious, wasteful idea once Moore's law properly runs out of road in a few years. Specialization will breed new ISAs, even boring ones.
This is already the case and I suspect the current general structure will continue mostly unchanged: you will still need your general purpose high perf generic CPU for the mostly the same workloads we use them for today (and that's including to run legacy software), and for now there is kind of only one broad successful approach to design them (for mass produced things, at least). Then in embedded chips you can use basically anything, and you also have way less stable ISA in chips more dedicated to massively parallel compute.
Even with JIT you can not really multiply the basic GP CPU ISA ad infinitum, because for bulk system code JIT is not that viable (even if it is for big apps). Also, this is basically attempting to deport the stable interface problem in another layer, but you can not necessarily remove all the features that made it possible to have a stable ISA, given tons of them are also needed for perfs. And they are since a very long time. So for even just semi-fast general purpose CPUs, I suspect the race is mostly over (hypothesis: higher level computer topology unchanged -- if you switch to e.g. chip stacking, things could change more)
For all the other cases, and you are right they are also massively important, things will continue to evolve in tons of directions.
There will probably be a continuing growth of demand for making chips, so I wouldn't be surprised to see some folks get into the market with "old" tech. So it's unlikely any one will jump in right at the bleeding edge, they may work their way up to more modern processes over time.
I could see a niche of 'home grown' fabs in various countries / regions that server local demand that is paranoid about supply chain security.
Depending on how automated you make the fabs, I wonder if it would be possible to sell "limited runs" of chips to people, kind of like book self-publishing but with VHDL/Verilog.
Unfortunately it seems that video material of cutting edge fabs on the web is scarce, and what is available does not really show the fab as a whole, but only details instead.
Well, I guess everybody is afraid of giving away IP...
Some examples:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=inoOAOOMjHo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yaASEMAMCNM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K_VIgU1hPok
Research labs
[0] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_semiconductor_fabric...
There exists extremely high-tech sector called "Semiconductor Capital Equipment Industry". All the instruments and equipment involved in deposition, lithography, etch and clean, inspection, metrology, and prosess control is super expensive.
Most of that technology is in the hands of Japanese (Nikon, Canon, Hitachi High-Technologies,Tokyo Electron and too many others to name), ASML Holding is big European player and largest supplier of photolithography systems. American companies involved are Applied Materials (their Semiconductor Systems), Lam Research and KLA-Tencor.
It's a lot easier to duplicate a production chain if you have full access to the machines (which come with extensive training). And you can even copy the process on a machine-by-machine basis, which makes it much simpler.
2) Many (including myself) believe that a tightly coupled international trade is the by far most efficient way we have of avoiding violent conflict between countries.
We can filter or recycle them but it cost a lot at scale. This is an open secret in EE schools.
Taiwan government is very activist when it comes to henpecking corporations on "governance standards." Boards of a lot of important companies are de-facto micromanaged by the state.
A stark contrast to the US, where laxity on that front is negated by mindbogglingly complex securities regulations.
For US, you can still play your game, just pay enough for lawyers. For Taiwan, not so much. Choose your poison.
Western companies tend to look at the ROI as a percentage, while Chinese businessmen at the actual profit amount.
As one said, "You can't take ROI to the bank. But I can deposit my nickels."
Warren Buffett is actually pretty famous for optimizing for "free cash flow".
"Cash is King". She tought ne a lot.
Also RoI is a measure of time. Not money or profit. Time until you get your money back.
Here's a link: https://www.investopedia.com/terms/r/returnoninvestment.asp
ROI = Return on Investment. Most people in practice calculate that in excel as a percentage of profit over their capital investment.
Smart business people know there's more important things than a dimensionless number, but hey, Peter Principle and "math is hard." See Black-Scholes and the 2008 recession for how wrong that can go.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black%E2%80%93Scholes_model
I used to do math tutoring for economics students. Boy, that was an eye-opener! I had to explain over and over what independent variables meant, and how that affected for example derivatives. As bad as p-hacking and the social sciences.
Econ Student: "Can I just plug these lists of numbers in the formula and write down the answer?"
Me: "What are the numbers measuring? Are they independent?"
Econ Student: "No idea."
1. You want fabs in a country where IP laws are protected so third parties don't get their designs stolen.
2. Critical tech from a military/trade perspective.
3. Other governments don't get to introduce secret low-level artifacts such as microcode into chips which runs whole world.
4. General availability of a higher level of capital for research.
5. The confluence of talent from all over the world can contribute to state of the art advancement.
It's not even labor cost anymore.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Intel_manufacturing_...
No non-PRC company is fearless enough to build a new fab in the PRC with anything that aren’t comfortable with being copied by mainland companies.
Edit: here's some PR: https://newsroom.intel.com/editorials/intel-marks-40-years-i...
The chip inside that package was fabbed elsewhere, most probably the USA.
That makes more sense now that I think of it. Can't imagine there was a steady supply of electricity there back in the early 70s. (Got any source though?)
There are a LOT of things to untangle. The first thing is the difference between leading edge fabrication, and everything else. If you look at this wiki list of active fabs (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_semiconductor_fabricat...), you'll see lots of plants still building stuff at 45nm+, and a large chunk building in 22-45nm.
There are only 3 main leading edge manufacturers', TSMC, Intel, and Samsung (I'm discounting Global Foundry since they publicly announced they're not chasing smaller process nodes). All of them concentration their fabs in their home country. Intel has some fabs in Ireland (I don't really know why..), Israel (Intel's Israel team is top-notch and a real contributor to Intel's success, so I guess that makes sense), and one in China (cause that's the world we live in). All of Intel's leading edge plants (10 and 7nm) are in the USA.
Of the non-leading edge plants, you'll also find that the majority of companies also concentrate their fabs in their home country, with American companies being a bit more dispersed. I would evaluate that the majority of fabs reside in a company's home country. I wager a bunch of the greater American dispersion comes from mergers/acquisitions. There's been a lot consolidation in the chip industry (at every level and vertical) in the last few decades.
I think what you're seeing isn't so much companies moving their fabs off shore. What you have is that most companies are no longer willing to invest their own R&D into pushing fabrication processes, so they stop building new fab plants, and instead look for a fabrication house to buy from. And today there's really only one choice, TSMC, which happens to be Taiwanese.
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TSMC was the first company to be a "pure-play" company that did no design work and only manufactured orders. This was back in the days when the guys at Intel and IBM had the attitude that to be a real player in the industry, you had to have your own fab. But there was an increasing amount of fabless design houses in the US that would piggyback off the excess fab capacity that Intel/IBM had after they were done with their own chips, and TSMC targeted that demand by tables companies for manufacturing capacity directly.
The takeaways I got was fabs moved away from the US because TSMC and the like figured out an innovative business model that let them focus on a single part of the supply chain that provided substantial cost savings for all these new fabless companies in the US. Meanwhile, the old established players like Intel/IBM with fab experience weren't willing to hop on this new segment and kept their fab capacity mainly for making their own designs. Although TSMC started in a high capital low return segment, as opposed to fabless that could produce and capture most of the value in a chip design, the IP itself, TSMC eventually became so good at what they do and process nodes became so expensive to develop that no other US companies had the incentive to enter this segment from scratch and lose money for years before catching up with TSMC for frankly not very high returns. The only US company keeping up with TSMC is Intel, and that's because they've been manufacturing from the start and have enough volume to make investing in a fab and spreading that fixed expenditure over all their chips worth it.
It set up the stage with the construction of the fab, the market, the international tension -- and then nothing.
I would've really loved some insight about what the international influences mean for day to day operation, some technical challenges etc.
(Or this would be the perfect setup for a murder mystery. One of the key engineers is found dead, and her ex-boyfriend, US and Chinese spies all could have a hand in it. My fantasy running wild again... :D )
I only wish an effort from Europe to bring this expertise also in Europe.
But still there is a huge difference between being a provider of technology and actually using that technology.
Actually it's quite liberating to be the provider of technology. You control the whole market. Specially true for some of the companies which are virtual monopolies (over 95% of the market is owned by them). In EUV side, which is the future (happening now), some vendors are the only option. Fabs can pressure them, of course, but at the end of the day they are the only vendors available. I find it quite funny, on one hand TSMC is one of those "jump? Where and how high" kind of customer but OTOH there is no one else they can turn to. I find this kind of relationship quite funny and unique. I am not aware of any other industry where the vendor has this much power. All because they are the only supplier. Maybe in defense?
I would love to know better this kind of dynamics.
Why TSMC or other fabs don't develop the same technology in house? How the technology is protected? Why there are not other competitors?
Moreover, what that means from the company point of view? I guess there is not a big push to innovate, isn't it?
Development on ASML NXE EUV scanners started ~20 years ago and only since very recently are they being used for high volume production. There is literally zero chance anyone would be able to profitably build the same thing from scratch again, at least not unless they find some radically different way to make semiconductors.
ASML is really at the core of bleeding edge semi. Their lithography equipment is basically unchallenged in the industry. Noone can make a 7nm CPU without them.
The people in the C-suite are Taiwanese.
The fabs are in Taiwan. The people who operate the fabs are in Taiwan.
The people who do the R&D for all the processes live in Taiwan. The people who create the Intellectual Property live in Taiwan.
Analogously, many decades ago Mitsubishi Group, a Japanese company, bought Rockefeller Center. Ha ha. Good luck with that. If things didn't work out it's not like they could disassemble 30 Rock and put it on a boat to Japan. Unsurprisingly they no longer own it.
It's not like before WWII when the Japanese bought one of the elevated subway lines in NYC and disassembled it for steel and shipped it back home to build battleships.
TSMC's assets are in fabs that are difficult to disassemble without great expense. And the other important assets go home every night. "Foreign investment" isn't able to spirit them out of the country.
TSMC is a Taiwanese company. Who gives a fuck what some bookkeeping entries in some computer ledgers say about "foreign investment".
China has been very aggressively recruiting those engineers to the mainland with high salaries and succeeding.
Is there a source for this story?
My 12th grade US history teacher. Circa 1973.
I found a Wikipedia discussion, but it is by no means dispositive: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IRT_Sixth_Avenue_Line#Allegati...
The NY Times also touched on it: https://www.nytimes.com/1995/06/11/nyregion/fyi-811695.html
It seems fairly so on the claim that Japan bought the el, dismantled it, and shipped the steel home; it is less dispositive on the question of whether some of the steel either reached Japan or freed up other steel for shipment to Japan when it was dismantled by it's actual civic owners, who had no connection to Japan.